Algebraic Expansion with complex numbers

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of partial fraction decomposition involving complex numbers in the context of Laplace transforms. The user initially struggles with finding the correct value for K2 after substituting complex roots into the equation. After some back-and-forth, it is clarified that K2 needs to be simplified by removing the complex term from the denominator, leading to the correct result of -3/20(2+i). Additionally, there is a suggestion that using residues directly might simplify the process of obtaining the inverse Laplace transform. The conversation also touches on converting exponential forms to trigonometric identities, indicating a broader exploration of complex number applications in engineering.
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Hi all,

I am a bit rusty and have hit a snag with decomposition of partial fractions, I am taking an Engineering course dealing with Laplace transforms. The example is:

F(s)= 3 / s(s2+2s+5)

Now I get that there are complex roots in the denominator and that there are conjugate complex roots (s+1±2i) giving:

F(s)= 3 / s(s+1-2i)(s+1-2i)

So partial fraction decomposition would give:

F(s) = K1/s + K2/(s+1+2i) + K3/(s+1-2i)

Ok, so solving for K1= 3/5 is easy and I get that, but when it comes to K2 which involves substituting (-1-2i) in for 's' and then expanding, I can't seem to get the answer. What I did was:

K2=3[STRIKE](s+1+2i)[/STRIKE]/s(s+1-2i)[STRIKE](s+1+2i)[/STRIKE]
K2=3/s(s+1-2i)
K2=3/(-1-2i)[(-1-2i)+1-2i)]

It is the algebraic expansion on the denominator that is getting me. When I do it I get:

(-1-2i)[(-1-2i)+1-2i)]
= (-1-2i)(0-4i)
=-1(-4i)-2i(-4i)
=4i+8i2
=8+4i
=4(2+i)

However my textbook gets -3/20 (2+i) for the final partial fraction... I'm lost any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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4i+8i2 = 4i-8 = [-8+4i, edit]
 
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Ah yes, simple error... my bad. But it still doesn't match the answer in my text :(
 
h_ngm_n said:
Ah yes, simple error... my bad. But it still doesn't match the answer in my text :(
That's because you haven't simplified K2 completely. With lewando's correction the denominator simplifies to -8+4i, so K2 is:
K_2 = \frac{3}{-8 + 4i}
Multiply the top and bottom by the conjugate of the denominator, and eventually, you will get:
K_2 = -\frac{3}{20}\left( 2 + i \right)
 
Ok, thank you for your time, I needed to simplify my fraction to get the complex term out of the denominator didn't I?
 
h_ngm_n said:
Ok, thank you for your time, I needed to simplify my fraction to get the complex term out of the denominator didn't I?

Yes, the fraction wouldn't be considered simplified otherwise.
 
It seems simpler to me to directly find the residues and then sum them to obtain the inverse Laplace, given that all poles here are simple. I do not know if you have any knowledge of the inverse formula, but it is certainly easier to apply here.
 
Hi Millennial,

So say that the residues are (took me a while to get this :rolleyes::)

K1=-0.4615
K2=0.2308-j2.0110
K3=0.2308+j2.0110

I can make this

g(t)= -0.4615e(-1.4t)+[(0.2308-j2.0110) e(-(1-j0.7)t)+(0.2308+j2.0110) e(-(1+j0.7)t) ] just by 'inspecting' the residues ? As opposed to breaking the partial fractions down and then doing inverse Laplace transform?

And I am little confused with the method to express it as trig identities:

The formulae: cosθ=(e+e-jθ)/2

and: sinθ=(e-e-jθ)/2j

I get a bit stuck using this to convert from exponential form to trig form...
 
Of course, you can avoid all the complex number stuff by using the partial fraction expansion$$
\frac 3 {s(s^2+2s+5)}= \frac A s + \frac{Bs+C}{s^2+2s+5}$$and writing ##s^2+2s+5=(s+1)^2+4## when taking the inverse Laplace Transform.
 
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