Alternatives to Shaded Pole Gearmotors for Oil Skimmer application

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around alternatives to shaded pole gearmotors for an oil skimmer application in a vertical machining center (VMC). Participants explore various gearmotor options, their specifications, and speed control methods, addressing both theoretical and practical aspects of the application.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their current use of shaded pole AC gearmotors but expresses concerns about low RPM performance.
  • Another participant requests additional information regarding the operational parameters of the system, such as runtime frequency and desired RPM range.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a low-cost electric drill as an alternative, noting its speed control mechanism but also its unsuitability for continuous operation due to brush wear.
  • Participants discuss the availability of shaded pole gearmotors in various speeds and power ratings, referencing a catalog for options.
  • There is a proposal to use a variable speed drill to determine the required speed before selecting a suitable gearmotor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best alternative gearmotor options, and multiple competing views regarding the suitability of different motors and their operational characteristics remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of specific operational details such as the exact RPM and power requirements of the existing motors, as well as the intended operational duration of the skimmer system.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in gearmotor applications, particularly in mechanical engineering, DIY projects, or those involved in designing systems for fluid management in machining environments.

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Hello, so I am building an Oil Skimmer for my VMC. The skimmer has 2 gearmotors, one for the belt rotation and another one for a fan which I would like to immerse in the coolant to create a vortex (Got this idea off Youtube!)

I am using two Shaded Pole AC Gearmotors for this application which I had in stock with me but upon running the machine I have found the RPM to be on the lower side. Attaching a pic of the machine build for reference.

I have since spoken with some local manufacturers who did not seem too convinced of their motors suiting my application. So my questions are :
1. Which other gearmotors can I use for this? They need to be small, compact, lightweight. And preferably cheap.
2. How do I control their speed?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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kunalv said:
Hello, so I am building an Oil Skimmer for my VMC.
What is a VMC ?
 
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We need more information.

Does this system run 24 hours per day and 7 days per week, for an hour or so per week, or somewhere in between?

What is the RPM and power of the existing motors?

What RPM, or range of RPM, do you want?

We need all of this information. For example, if it only runs a few hours per week, you don't care what it looks like, and you can fabricate some mountings, one possibility is a low cost electric drill:
Drill.jpg

The speed can be controlled a screw pushing on the trigger speed control, and they are available cheap. But they are not suitable for 24/7 operation because the brushes wear out.

Shaded pole gearmotors are available in a wide range of speeds and power. This is a page from the McMaster-Carr catalog showing one type of gearmotor. They have a large selection of other types. I do not know if they ship to your country, but this gives an idea of what is available:

Gearmotor.jpg

You will need to spend some time finding what speed and power you need. You might find that you could use, for example, a variable speed drill to find the speed, then buy a gearmotor for that speed.
 
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