Am I integrating this right: (x^2 + 3x + 11)/(x+2)^4 ?

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The discussion centers around the integration of the function (x^2 + 3x + 11)/(x+2)^4, with participants exploring the method of partial fractions for integration.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to apply partial fraction decomposition, expressing the integrand in terms of simpler fractions. They raise questions about the correctness of their approach and calculations for determining coefficients A, B, C, and D.

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Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's setup, confirming the correctness of the partial fractions. Others suggest using u-substitution as an alternative method for integration, indicating a shift in the approach being considered.

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There is mention of a potential typo in the integrand, which could affect the calculations. Participants are also navigating through the implications of their assumptions regarding the integration process.

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Am I integrating this right: (x^2 + 3x + 11)/(x+2)^4 ?

1. ∫(x2 + 3x + 4)/(x+2)4dx


2. With these sorts of problems, I think about integration by partial fractions.

So in this case, the denominator factors are all the same, so I have to make each one with different exponents.
I wrote:

A/(x + 2) + B/(x + 2)2 + C/(x + 2)3 + D/(x + 2)4

I multiplied to get common denominators:

A(x + 2)3 + B(x + 2)2 + C(x + 2) + D = x2 + 3x + 11

Now I need to figure out what A, B, C, and D equal.

When I substitute x=-2, D=9

A(x + 2)3 + B(x + 2)2 + C(x + 2) + 9 = x3 + 3x + 11

I think I am supposed to take the derivative now to figure out the other values.

2x + 3 = 3A(x + 2)2 + 2B(x + 2) + C

When I substitute x=-2, C= -1

Now, am I able to take the derivative again?
That's what I did next:
Substituting x=-2,

2 = 6A(x + 2) + 2B
B=1

If x=1,

2 = 6A(x + 2) + 2(1)
A=0

...Am I even doing this right? :/
I don't want to go on if I'm not even doing this part right!
Thank you very much! :D
 
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Lo.Lee.Ta. said:
1. ∫(x2 + 3x + 4)/(x+2)4dx


2. With these sorts of problems, I think about integration by partial fractions.

So in this case, the denominator factors are all the same, so I have to make each one with different exponents.
I wrote:

A/(x + 2) + B/(x + 2)2 + C/(x + 2)3 + D/(x + 2)4

I multiplied to get common denominators:

A(x + 2)3 + B(x + 2)2 + C(x + 2) + D = x2 + 3x + 11

Now I need to figure out what A, B, C, and D equal.

When I substitute x=-2, D=9

A(x + 2)3 + B(x + 2)2 + C(x + 2) + 9 = x3 + 3x + 11

I think I am supposed to take the derivative now to figure out the other values.

2x + 3 = 3A(x + 2)2 + 2B(x + 2) + C

When I substitute x=-2, C= -1

Now, am I able to take the derivative again?
That's what I did next:
Substituting x=-2,

2 = 6A(x + 2) + 2B
B=1

If x=1,

2 = 6A(x + 2) + 2(1)
A=0

...Am I even doing this right? :/
I don't want to go on if I'm not even doing this part right!
Thank you very much! :D

If your original integrand was (x^2+3x+11)/(x+2)^4 (you probably have a typo), then, yes, you got the partial fractions right.
 
Oh, yes, was a typo! Thanks for letting me know it's right so far! :)
 
Alright, now I have:

∫(0/x+2) + (1/(x+2)2) - 1/(x+2)3 + 9/(x+2)4dx

U-substitution!

u= x+2
du=dx

∫u-2 - u-3 + 9u-4du

= -u-1 - u-2/-2 + 9u-3/-3

= -1/(x+2) + 1/(2(x+2)2) - 2/(x+2)-3

...Is this right?
Thanks so much! :)
 
Lo.Lee.Ta. said:
Alright, now I have:

∫(0/(x+2)) + (1/(x+2)2) - 1/(x+2)3 + 9/(x+2)4dx

U-substitution!

u= x+2
du=dx

∫u-2 - u-3 + 9u-4du

= -u-1 - u-2/-2 + 9u-3/-3

= -1/(x+2) + 1/(2(x+2)2) - 2/(x+2)-3

...Is this right?
Thanks so much! :)
You can check by taking the derivative of the result.

By the way: This problem can be done more easily by using u-substitution at the outset, with u = x+2 .
 

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