Am I taking the right approach? (Finding final velocity)

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The problem involves finding the final velocity of an object moving along a circular path, with participants discussing various methods to determine the height from which the object descends.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods to calculate the height using geometric relationships, including the chord length formula and trigonometric functions. Some express confusion about the chord length concept, while others share their interpretations and calculations.

Discussion Status

There are multiple approaches being discussed, with some participants finding alternative methods to derive the height and arriving at the same final velocity. No explicit consensus has been reached, but productive dialogue is occurring around the different interpretations of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants question the appropriateness of the chord length formula for the problem, suggesting that the professor may not have intended for it to be used. There is also mention of confusion regarding terminology and methods used in the calculations.

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I've been given this problem http://i.imgur.com/7XtYt.png and I had no idea of how to come up with an answer since it is a circular path. The only thing that occurred to me is find the initial height using the chord length formula for a circle and then treat that chord as the hypotenuse of a right triangle. After finding "the height" that way I can then use an energy conservation approach to get the velocity and I get 16.78 m/s.

Is that a correct way of doing it?. Even if it is correct, not many people would remember the chord length formula so I doubt our professor intended for it to be solved that way. There has to be an easier way to do it.
 
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I find "chord length" confusing.
To find the height, I drew a horizontal line from A to the vertical line.
The distance from the center of the circle to the line is 30*cos(40) = 23.
So the height at A is 30 - 23 = 7.
I get the same final answer answer you did.
 
Delphi51 said:
I find "chord length" confusing.
To find the height, I drew a horizontal line from A to the vertical line.
The distance from the center of the circle to the line is 30*cos(40) = 23.
So the height at A is 30 - 23 = 7.
I get the same final answer answer you did.

Wow, this is more straight forward. I don't see how I see it myself.

This is what I mean by chord length . http://i.imgur.com/aNTUA.png

Thanks :)
 
Fascinating! I must attempt to derive that formula.
Funny, I never ran across it before.
 

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