Amateur mathematicians versus professional mathematicians

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The discussion centers on the dilemma of pursuing a career in mathematics versus a more lucrative field like medicine. It highlights that while amateur mathematicians can make significant contributions, formal education, particularly a master's degree, is often necessary for original ideas in mathematics. The conversation acknowledges that mathematicians generally earn less than professionals in fields such as medicine, prompting some to consider mathematics as a hobby alongside a more profitable career. While self-study in mathematics is possible, many argue that institutional support is crucial for mastering complex material. The dialogue also touches on the diverse career opportunities available for mathematics graduates, including finance and actuarial science, which can be financially rewarding. Additionally, the role of applied mathematicians in experimental design and data analysis is emphasized, countering the notion that mathematics is purely theoretical. Ultimately, the discussion reflects on balancing personal interests in mathematics with practical career considerations.
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Is it better for some one interested in mathematics to be an amateur mathematician and pursue a degree that can help him earning more money like medicine . Mathematicians do not earn much money . right ? Fermat for example was a lawyer and an amateur mathematician , yet he contributed a lot to the field.
 
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If you want to contribute original ideas, you pretty much have to get at least a masters.
 
G037H3 said:
If you want to contribute original ideas, you pretty much have to get at least a masters.
If he wants to deal with math as a hobby he doesn't need even a Bsc.
Having any degree doesn't guarantee you'll contribute original ideas, but having original ideas might entail having a degree.
 
G037H3 said:
If you want to contribute original ideas, you pretty much have to get at least a masters.

Math is purely theoretical , there are no experiments in it . If some one is smart enough and really interested in mathematics , he can study it on his own and seek a degree that enables him to earn much money .For example , Docs earn much more than most mathematicans at least in my country . I'm interested in both medicine and math , so I was thinking I can be a doctor and yet take math as a hobby
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
If he wants to deal with math as a hobby he doesn't need even a Bsc.
Having any degree doesn't guarantee you'll contribute original ideas, but having original ideas might entail having a degree.

You are right .few of math majors contribute to original ideas yet they are all interested in math
 
scottbekerham said:
If some one is smart enough and really interested in mathematics , he can study it on his own and seek a degree that enables him to earn much money

Well, 'if someone is smart enough' is quite a qualifier - and it isn't just about smarts, it's about commitment and motivation too. The point is that for almost everyone, if you want to contribute an original idea, you will need to spend years understanding the pretext (which is part of the plan from an undergraduate degree).
 
scottbekerham said:
Mathematicians do not earn much money . right ?

No, not necessarily correct - you're being too general. Do you mean academic mathematicians? What do you consider 'much money' to be?

An undergraduate degree in mathematics would allow you to study mathematics to a good level, and then if all you were concerned about was money, you can head over into finance or something like that. Mathematics gives you hundreds of options for careers. Become an actuary or an analyst; you'll still be using maths and you can make a lot of money.

scottbekerham said:
Fermat for example was a lawyer and an amateur mathematician , yet he contributed a lot to the field.

This isn't a good example to use. "So I'll just be like Fermat" is easier said than done.
 
scottbekerham said:
Math is purely theoretical , there are no experiments in it

This also is completely incorrect. Applied mathematicians might not be involved in actually carrying experiments out, but they can certainly be involved in the process of design and are heavily involved with the data that comes out of it. Consider someone that models traffic data. They might develop a model, notice something key is missing from the data then feed that back to the experimental design.


scottbekerham said:
If some one is smart enough and really interested in mathematics , he can study it on his own

Again, that isn't true for everyone. I know I wouldn't have managed through all of the material I covered at undergraduate without the support of my institution (and especially not in the same amount of time).

scottbekerham said:
I'm interested in both medicine and math , so I was thinking I can be a doctor and yet take math as a hobby

You could look at mathematical biology. Sure, you won't make as much money as you would if you became a medical doctor, but it depends where your priorities lie.
 
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