Amplitude of equation of motion

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The discussion revolves around the equation of motion for forced oscillations, specifically focusing on determining the amplitude of oscillations given a differential equation that includes damping. The original poster is seeking guidance on how to find the frequency, which is a missing variable in their analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the damping term in the equation and question how the absence of the driving frequency affects the ability to determine amplitude. There is also a mention of the relationship between natural frequency, damping ratio, and amplitude envelope.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the nature of the damping in the system and its effect on amplitude. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between the driving frequency and amplitude envelope, but no consensus has been reached on the specific methods to find the frequency.

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There is a noted absence of the driving frequency, which is critical for fully solving the problem. Participants are also considering the implications of the system being overdamped, which may influence their approach to finding the amplitude.

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Hello,

I have worked out some force diagrams for forced oscillations and ended up with the solution as :

mx_double_dot+rx_dot+kx=Pcos(Ωt)

I am now asked to work out the amplitude. I know all of the variables except frequency(Ω). What equations can I use to find that?

Thanks.
 
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m\ddot{x}+r\dot{x}+kx=P\cos(\omega t)
... to see how the amplitude behaves, you'll need to solve the equation.
The driving frequency is something you'd normally be given.

I don't see a damping term - what do you think is likely to happen to the amplitude of the oscillations?
 
I have worked out that this is a strongly dampered equation, so I expect the amplitude to die down quickly.

So, without frequency, this cannot be done? The question I have is to get the amplitude in order to solve the frequency between certain amplitudes. That last part can be done on the computer.
 
Oh I misread it - OK. So you have determined the system is overdamped which simplifies things - you need to find the natural frequency and damping ratio.

You don't need the driving frequency to find the amplitude envelope - it's a decaying exponential: compare your equation with the general solutions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator#Driven_harmonic_oscillators
 

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