Analysing a 3-Loop RLC Circuit and Finding State Equations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around obtaining state equations in matrix form for a specific 3-loop RLC circuit, focusing on the output current i_2. Participants explore the formulation of loop equations and the selection of state variables, while also addressing procedural aspects related to marking the thread as solved.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Captain1024, seeks assistance in writing loop equations and selecting state variables for the RLC circuit.
  • Another participant points out an error in the first loop equation, suggesting that the current in the inductor branch should be expressed as ##i_1 - i_2##.
  • Several posts discuss the procedural aspect of marking the thread as solved, with conflicting reports about the availability of the feature.
  • Captain1024 expresses uncertainty about the absence of the "mark solved" option, questioning if it is a moderator-only feature.
  • Another participant asserts that the feature should be available to all users and offers to report the issue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correct formulation of the loop equations, as one participant identifies an error without further resolution. Additionally, there is disagreement regarding the availability of the "mark solved" feature, with some participants asserting it is accessible while others claim they cannot find it.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the circuit configuration and the definitions of current in the branches, which may affect the formulation of equations. The status of the "mark solved" feature remains unresolved, with varying experiences reported by participants.

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Homework Statement


Obtain the state equations in Matrix form for the two-input and one-output circuit shown in the figure below where the output is i_2.

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Homework Equations


Ohm's Law, KVL, KCL

The Attempt at a Solution


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Currents i1, i2, i3 assumed clockwise. Is there a better assumption I could have made?

Nodes:
a: ##i_1=i_2+i_\mathrm{L}##
b: ##i_3=i_2+C\frac{\mathrm{d}v_C(t)}{\mathrm{d}t}##

Loops:
l1: ##v_1-\mathrm{R}_1i_1-\mathrm{L}\frac{\mathrm{d}i_1(t)}{\mathrm{d}t}=0##
l2: ##v_C-\mathrm{?}-\mathrm{R}_2i_2=0##
l3: ##v_2-v_C-\mathrm{R}_3i_3=0##

Before I start solving for unknowns, I need a little help writing the loop equations. After that, I'm not sure how to choose my state variables.

-Captain1024
 
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Your first loop equation is incorrect. Notice that the current in the branch with the inductor is ##i_1 - i_2##, so you would instead have ##-L \frac{d}{dt} \left(i_1(t) - i_2(t)\right)##.
 
My professor has posted the solution now. This thread may be deleted.
 
Captain1024 said:
My professor has posted the solution now. This thread may be deleted.
Threads are not deleted unless there is some extraordinary reason. You may mark it "Solved", however. See the "MARK SOLVED" icon at the top of the thread.
 
gneill said:
Threads are not deleted unless there is some extraordinary reason. You may mark it "Solved", however. See the "MARK SOLVED" icon at the top of the thread.
I don't think marking a thread "solved" is an option anymore. I looked at the top of the thread and didn't find anything. Then, I searched the site for "mark solved" and found a thread from last year that mentioned that feature is gone. Thanks anyway.

-Captain1024
 
The feature is back. Go to the top of this page and look to the right of the thread title (all the way to the right of the page). Find the black icon:

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Just hit that and it marks the thread "Solved".
 

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gneill said:
The feature is back. Go to the top of this page and look to the right of the thread title (all the way to the right of the page). Find the black icon:

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Just hit that and it marks the thread "Solved".
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I logged in with Chrome, FireFox, and IE and I did not see that button next to my thread title. Is it possible this is a moderator only feature?
 
Captain1024 said:
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I logged in with Chrome, FireFox, and IE and I did not see that button next to my thread title. Is it possible this is a moderator only feature?
No, it's supposed to be available to all.

Leave it with me, I'll report the issue. Thanks for pointing it out.
 

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