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The discussion focuses on analyzing a circuit with an operational amplifier (op-amp) using node voltage analysis. The user derives equations for node voltages at points E and D, ultimately calculating VD as 4.84V and VE as 3.87V. They encounter difficulties when calculating the output voltage Vo, resulting in an unexpectedly high value. The error was identified as using the 0V node for analysis, which was problematic due to an unknown current from the ground. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying reference points in circuit analysis.
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Homework Statement


http://i.imgur.com/TBrFMIT.png


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


So I basically start with node voltages at the positive terminal of the op-amp, and I label that node E, so the node voltage goes:

VE/80 + (VE - VD)/20 = 0 (I labelled the node at the bottom of the diamond D)

Continuing from this equation, I then analyze the circuit at node D, and I know the left node in the diamond is 10V, because it is connected to a voltage source which is connected to the ground. I also know the right node is 0V, because it's directly connected to the ground, so then I get the equation:

(VD - 10)/40 + (VD - VE)/20 + VD/60

From the node voltage equation at node E, I learn that VE = 0.8 VD, which means I can then substitute that value into my equation to solve for VD. Skipping the calculations, I get that VD = 4.84V.

From there, I analyze the node on the right of the diamond, which I know to be 0V, this gives me the equation:
-VD/60 + (-VC)/30 = 0 (I name the top node C)
Simplifying this equation and substituting in the number for VD gives me a VC value of -2.42V
I can also solve for VE using the equation I had earlier, VE = 0.8VD, so I get that VE = 3.87V.

With these values, I use the summing point constraints, and I know that the voltage in the node connected to the negative terminal of the op-amp is the same as the voltage in the node connected to the positive terminal, giving me VE' = 3.87V (Naming the negative terminal E')

Doing node voltage analysis on the node E' gives me an equation to solve for Vo, but I get a ridiculously high number when I try this. Could someone identify where I am going wrong with my work? Thank you in advance.
 
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Temp0 said:

Homework Statement


http://i.imgur.com/TBrFMIT.png


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


So I basically start with node voltages at the positive terminal of the op-amp, and I label that node E, so the node voltage goes:

VE/80 + (VE - VD)/20 = 0 (I labelled the node at the bottom of the diamond D)

Continuing from this equation, I then analyze the circuit at node D, and I know the left node in the diamond is 10V, because it is connected to a voltage source which is connected to the ground. I also know the right node is 0V, because it's directly connected to the ground, so then I get the equation:

(VD - 10)/40 + (VD - VE)/20 + VD/60

From the node voltage equation at node E, I learn that VE = 0.8 VD, which means I can then substitute that value into my equation to solve for VD. Skipping the calculations, I get that VD = 4.84V.

From there, I analyze the node on the right of the diamond, which I know to be 0V, this gives me the equation:
-VD/60 + (-VC)/30 = 0 (I name the top node C)
Simplifying this equation and substituting in the number for VD gives me a VC value of -2.42V
I can also solve for VE using the equation I had earlier, VE = 0.8VD, so I get that VE = 3.87V.

With these values, I use the summing point constraints, and I know that the voltage in the node connected to the negative terminal of the op-amp is the same as the voltage in the node connected to the positive terminal, giving me VE' = 3.87V (Naming the negative terminal E')

Doing node voltage analysis on the node E' gives me an equation to solve for Vo, but I get a ridiculously high number when I try this. Could someone identify where I am going wrong with my work? Thank you in advance.

Your value for the potential at the V+ input of the op-amp looks okay.

Can you show your work for the node voltage analysis to determine Vo?
 
Nevermind, I figured out why I was wrong, it's because I can't use the 0V node for node analysis, because there's an unknown current coming out of the ground.
 

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