Angular Acceleration and Torque

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of an 80kg stuntman lowering himself using a rope attached to a rotating 400kg cylinder. The correct acceleration is determined to be approximately 2.8 m/s², after addressing the misunderstanding regarding the torque and tension in the rope. The initial calculations incorrectly equated the tension to the weight of the stuntman, which led to an inaccurate torque expression. By applying the correct equations and considering the forces acting on both the stuntman and the cylinder, the solution was refined. The final consensus confirms that the calculations align with the expected result of 2.8 m/s².
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Homework Statement


To lower himself from a balcony an 80kg stuntman grabs a rope connected to a 400kg cylinder with a 1.2m diameter that is free to rotate about its axis of symmetry. What is the stuntman's acceleration as he falls?

Homework Equations


I missed this on a homework assignment. I know the correct answer is 2.86m/s2 but I can't find what I did wrong.

The Attempt at a Solution


moment of inertia for a cylinder: I=1/2 Mr2
radius of cylinder = 0.6m

torque applied by stuntman = mgr = 80kg * 9.8m/s2 * 0.6m = 470.4Nm
Using t = Iα
470.4Nm = (0.5 * 400kg * 0.6m2
α = 470.4Nm / (0.5 * 400kg * 0.6m2) = 6.53rad/s2
a = αr = 6.53rad/s2 * 0.6m = 3.92m/s2

What am I missing?
 
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jakec said:
torque applied by stuntman = mgr = 80kg * 9.8m/s2 * 0.6m = 470.4Nm
Hello. This is not the correct expression for the torque. The tension in the rope is not equal to the weight of the man. The tension is one of the unknowns. That means you'll need an additional equation besides ##\tau = I \alpha##. Be sure to draw free body diagrams for both the cylinder and the man.
 
The force on the stuntman is accelerating the stuntman as well as turning the cylinder. You need to work out how to partition the force into those two parts.
 
OK, so this is what I have now. I'm still a little off from the answer I should get. Any suggestions of what I can do better? (hopefully in time for finals tomorrow)

T= tension
ζ = torque
W = weight of stuntman

∑ζ = Iα
Since the tension in the cord is the only force providing torque:
Tr = Iα
Tr = (1/2 Mr2)(a/r)
T = 1/2 Ma

ΣF = ma
W - T = ma
Substituting from above:
W - (1/2 Ma) = ma
a = (2mg) / (2m +M)

a = (2 * 80kg * 9.8m/s2) / (2 * 80kg + 400kg) = 2.8 m/s2
 
Your work looks correct to me. I also get 2.8 m/s2.
 
Great! Thanks for the help!
 
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