Angular speed of rotating hoop

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular speed of a rotating hoop using kinematic equations, in the context of dynamics and rotational motion. The original poster attempts to solve the problem using both kinematic equations and conservation of energy, but is struggling to reconcile their results.

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  • Participants explore the use of kinematic equations and discuss the relationship between linear and angular motion. Some question the validity of the equations used, particularly regarding the tension and its implications on the net torque.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants seeking clarification on the relevant equations and the original question. Some have pointed out potential issues with the equations presented, while others are attempting to clarify the problem statement and the necessary calculations.

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Participants note that the original poster has provided a specific scenario involving the descent of the hoop and the need to calculate its angular speed after a certain distance. There is an emphasis on ensuring all relevant equations are included in the discussion.

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So I know how to solve this with conservation of energy, but I can't seem to get the correct answer using kinematic equations.

τnet = Iα = (MR2*(a/R))
-Tension = MRa

Fnet = ma
w-Tension = ma
-Tension = ma - mg

Plugging this into the first equation:
ma-mg = MRa
a-g = Ra
a = g/(1-R)
a = 9.8/(1-0.0800) = 10.65 m/s2

vinitial = 0
a = 10.65 m/s2
Δy = 0.45 m
vfinal = ?

vfinal2 = vinitial2 + 2aΔy
vfinal = sqrt(2aΔy)
vfinal = 3.096 m/s
v = rω
ω = v/r = 3.096/0.0800 = 38.7 rad/s

Correct answer: 26.3 rad/s

Again, I know this can be solved with conservation of energy, but I'm trying to figure it out with kinematic equations.
 
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henry3369 said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


What is the question?

What are the relevant equations?
 
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henry3369 said:
τnet = Iα = (MR2*(a/R))
-Tension = MRa
Dimensional analysis of the second equation above shows that it can't be correct.
 
ehild said:
What is the question?

What are the relevant equations?
I forgot to include the questions in the picture:
After the hoop has descended 0.45 m, calculate the angular speed of the hoop.

Relevant equations:
τ = Iα
F = ma
Kinematic equations
 

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