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Homework Statement


Determine whether the series is convergent or divergent.
\sum n5 / (n6 + 1)
 
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hi tnutty - any ideas?
maybe a comparison test...
 
Yes I was thinking of the comparison test, but that's next chapter. in this chpt, its all about integral test. i am not sure how to solve this with integral test, but can you check out the comparison test that follows ?

Comparison test ;

n^5 / (n^6+1) <= n^5 / n^6 = 1/n and from definition we know that 1/(n^p)
converges if n > 1 and diverges if n< 1. So in this case it diverges since n = 1.

Any ideas solving this by integral test?
 
tnutty said:
Yes I was thinking of the comparison test, but that's next chapter. in this chpt, its all about integral test. i am not sure how to solve this with integral test, but can you check out the comparison test that follows ?

Comparison test ;

n^5 / (n^6+1) <= n^5 / n^6 = 1/n and from definition we know that 1/(n^p)
converges if n > 1 and diverges if n< 1. So in this case it diverges since n = 1.
?

No, you can't conclude from this comparison that the series diverges. For the comparison test to show that a series diverges, the terms have to be larger than those of a divergent series. Here you show that they are smaller than those of \sum 1/n.
 
rwisz said:
The comparison test does show divergence that's right.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but no it does not. Take a look at the comparison test and what it says about divergent series and what it says about convergent series. They are different.
rwisz said:
For the integral test however, since the numerator contains n^5 and the derivative of the denominator is 6n^5 then you should be able to tell that u-substitution will work like a charm here...

Hint: du/u = ln u.

And for the setup of the improper integral, try looking at the previous thread where I helped you, at the bottom of my last post.
 
as Mark mentioned out the comparison test points out that if

b_n &gt; a_n for all n>N then if an diverges so does bn
so your pevious example doesn't work...

but to get this condition you could notice

\frac{n^5}{n^6 + 1} &gt; \frac{1}{2n} which is true \forall n &gt;1

or
\frac{n^5}{n^6 + 1} &gt; \frac{n^5}{n^6 + n^5} = \frac{1}{n+1} which is true \forall n &gt;1 and cleary diverges...

clearly
 
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