Another DC Circuit (But more complicated with a SWITCH and Capacitor)

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The discussion revolves around a DC circuit problem involving capacitors, resistors, and a switch. The original poster seeks to analyze the circuit's behavior immediately after closing the switch, after a long time, and upon reopening the switch.

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  • Participants explore the behavior of the circuit at different time intervals, questioning the current through the resistors and the voltage across the capacitor. There is a focus on applying Kirchhoff's laws and understanding capacitor behavior in circuits.

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Some participants have provided calculations and attempted to clarify the current values, while others have raised questions about the correctness of these calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between voltage, current, and resistance, with some participants correcting each other's misunderstandings.

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Homework Statement


For the circuit shown below, the capacitors are initially uncharged. At t=0, the switch S is closed.

a) Determine the current in each resistor immediately after the switch is closed.
b) Determine the current in each resistor a very long time after the switch is closed.
c) Determine the voltage across the capacitor a very long time after the switch is closed.

After the switch has been closed for a very long time, it is reopened.

d) Determine the initial current I0 through the 100 ohm resistor, as a function of time after the switch is reopened.

e) Determine I(t), the current through the 100 ohm resistor, as a function of time after the switch is reopened.

f) How long after the switch is reopened does the charge on the capacitor fall to 10% of its fully charged state?

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Homework Equations


V=IR
I through a capacitor is I = Cdv/dt = Q/C
Kirchoff's Loops Rules

The Attempt at a Solution



a) Immediately after the switch is closed, the capacitor behaves ls a short circuit and hence no current flows through the 100 ohm resistor.

I in the 200 ohm resistor = V/R=15V/200ohms=.075A

b) long after the switch is closed, the capacitor is fully charged and behanves as an open circuit. All of the current passes through both resistors.

Left Loop Clockwise:
15V-200ΩI1-100ΩI1=0
Right Loop Counter clockwise: Q/C-100ΩI1-0

I1 is the only current passing through both the resistors

I= 20A

as for the rest of the parts, I want to make sure I get A and B right before I move on.
 
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sweetdion said:
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b) Determine the current in each resistor a very long time after the switch is closed.


b) long after the switch is closed, the capacitor is fully charged and behanves as an open circuit. All of the current passes through both resistors.

Left Loop Clockwise:
15V-200ΩI1-100ΩI1=0

Right Loop Counter clockwise: Q/C-100ΩI1-0

I1 is the only current passing through both the resistors

I= 20A

I do not understand. What is that I=20 A? A few hundred ohm and 15 V emf, how can be the current 20 A?

ehild
 
sweetdion said:
I through a capacitor is I = Cdv/dt = Q/C

I = C dv/dt is correct.

But I = Q/C is not. Don't use it. V = Q/C is the correct equation.
 
ehild said:
I do not understand. What is that I=20 A? A few hundred ohm and 15 V emf, how can be the current 20 A?

ehild

I solved the top equation and that's what I got. Did I label my currents right?
 
Do you mean 15V-200ΩI1-100ΩI1=0? That is 15 V = 300Ω * I1. Do you mean I1= 20 A?

ehild
 
Yeah, that's what I meant.
 
Amazing. Tell me please, how much is 300*20?

ehild
 
A lot, 6000. Which, is wrong.

I'm asking for your help because I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, ehild.
 
You have an equation. 300 I = 15. This equation is correct.
Solve it for I. Is not it 15/300 A?

ehild
 
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ehild said:
You have an equation. 300 I = 15. This equation is correct.
Solve it for I. Is not it 15/300 A?

ehild

Oh. Now I see what I was doing wrong. Simple Math error. I = 0.05A
 
  • #11
Moving on to part C now.

When the switch is closed for a very long time, the capacitor starts discharging through the resistors. After a long time, the voltage across the capacitor becomes equal to the voltage across the 100 Ω resistor.

V= IR=(0.05A)(100Ω)=5V
 
  • #12
sweetdion said:
Moving on to part C now.

When the switch is closed for a very long time, the capacitor starts discharging through the resistors. After a long time, the voltage across the capacitor becomes equal to the voltage across the 100 Ω resistor.

V= IR=(0.05A)(100Ω)=5V

That's right. After a very long time, the capacitor becomes essentially an open circuit.
 
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Thanks Melawrghk. :)
 

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