Time Dilation Paradox: Geosynchronous Satellites

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The discussion centers on the time dilation paradox experienced by geosynchronous satellites, which orbit at high altitudes. While time moves faster at higher elevations due to gravitational effects, it also moves slower at high speeds due to kinematic effects. The consensus is that the gravitational effect dominates, leading to a net increase in the rate of time experienced by the satellite compared to an observer on Earth. This paradox is resolved by understanding that time is relative and depends on both gravitational depth and relative speed.

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Time moves faster when higher above the earth. Time move slower the faster you are moving. A geosynchronous satellite has to be very high to be geosynchronous so it's time should be fast, but it also has to be orbiting the earth extremely fast to keep up with a geosynchronous position, so it's time should be slow. This seems like a paradox to me.
 
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InquiringMind said:
This seems like a paradox to me.
Why? It's just two competing effects.
 
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A geosynchronous satellite has to be very high to be geosynchronous so it's time should be fast
In that case the gravitational effect wins over the kinematic effect

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InquiringMind said:
Time moves faster when higher above the earth. Time move slower the faster you are moving
Just to be sure you are clear, neither one of these statements is true as an absolute statement. What you have left out is "relative to <something>". That is, your time ALWAYS moves at one second per second no matter where you are in a gravity well or how fast you are moving relative to something else.

Time APPEARS, to a different observer, to move a differing rates relative to that observer's rate, depending on relative depth in a gravity well and relative speed.
 
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Time moves faster when higher above the earth. Time move slower the faster you are moving. A geosynchronous satellite has to be very high to be geosynchronous so it's time should be fast, but it also has to be orbiting the earth extremely fast to keep up with a geosynchronous position, so it's time should be slow. This seems like a paradox to me.
If you eat too much food, you put on weight. If you exercise a lot, you lose weight. If you eat a lot and exercise a lot you should put on weight and you should lose weight. Is that a paradox too?
 
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it also has to be orbiting the earth extremely fast to keep up with a geosynchronous position
Free-fall orbital speed decreases with altitude.
 

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