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Anyone knows how to solve a cryptogram?

  1. Feb 19, 2012 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    PZNWHZGMJKNYVUONKVMTXKNGUNADVGKUWLKVXZCZWGVKTNONAAGZJYNIHUIWNCTETOBVOZOYVHPZCCVHVWJBTOOTOBHTBOTAUTOBGZOZPVCVHPJCCVHXSVOBJANGTSVMJHPNGOWZANGZUNLVOYVCITBSKUBNYKSZHVIZHNCZIONVKSNLGANGWZVGHDGZHXGTWZYOJVGCUVXZOKLGUVOYKSGZJFLVGKJGHVBNKSJPNGCYTHMZGUYTAAJGJOKONPANGIVOSNCYHTOSTHINGKVCSVOYHKSZDNPZGKNVWNCTHSVCCANGIHNASLIVODNMJGKUVOYVCCANGIHNASLIVOCTAZVOYUJKKSJHVIJGJMNCLKTNOVGUWZCTJAHANGPSTXSNLGANGWJVGHANLBSKVGJHKTCCVKTHHLJVGNLOYKSZBCNWJKSZWZCTJAKSVKKSJGTBSKHNAIVOXNIZONKAGNIKSZBZOZGNHTKUNAKSJHKVKZWLKAGNIKSZSVOYNABNYPJYVGJONKANGBJKKNYVUKSVKPJVGZKSJSJTGHNAKSVKATGHKGJMNCLKTNOCJKKSJPNGYBNANGKSAGNIKSTHKTIZVOYDCVXZKNAGTZOYVOYANZVCTRJKSVKKSZKNGXSSVHWZJODVHHJYKNVOJPBZOZGVKTNONAVIJGTXVOHWNGOTOKSTHXJOKLGUKZIDJGJYWUPVGYTHXTDCTOJYWUVSVGYVOYWTKKJGDZVXJDGNLYNANLGVOXTZOKSZGTKVBZVOYLOPTCCTOBKNPTKOJHHNGDJGITKKSZHCNPLOYNTOBNAKSNHZSLIVOGTBSKHKNPSTXSKSTHOVKTNOSVHVCPVUHWJZOXNIITKKJYVOYKNPSTXSPZVGJXNIITKKJYKNYVUVKSNIJVOYVGNLOYKSJPNGCYCZKZMZGUOVKTNORONPPSJKSZGTKPTHSZHLHPJCCNGTCCKSVKPZHSVCCDVUVOUDGTXZWZVGVOUWLGYZOIJZKVOUSVGYHSTDHLDDNGKVOUAGTZOYNDDNHZVOUANZKNVHHLGZKSJHLGMTMVCVOYKSJHLXXZHHNACTWZGKUKSTHILXSPJDCZYBJVOYINGZKNKSNHJNCYVCCTJHPSNHJXLCKLGVCVOYHDTGTKLVCNGTBTOHPZHSVGJPJDCZYBJKSZCNUVCKUNAAVTKSALCAGTJOYHLOTKJYKSJGJTHCTKKCJPJXVOONKYNTOVSNHKNAXNNDJGVKTMJMJOKLGZHYTMTYJYKSJGJTHCTKKCJPJXVOYNANGPJYVGJONKIZJKVDNPJGALCXSVCCJOBZVKNYYHVOYHDCTKVHLOYZGKNKSNHZOZPHKVKZHPSNIPJPJCXNIZKNKSJGVORHNAKSJAGZJPJDCZYBJNLGPNGYKSVKNOJANGINAXNCNOTVCXNOKGNCHSVCCONKSVMZDVHHJYVPVUIZGZCUKNWZGZDCVXJYWUVAVGINGZTGNOKUGVOOUPJHSVCCONKVCPVUHZQDJXKKNATOYKSZIHLDDNGKTOBNLGMTJPWLKPJHSVCCVCPVUHSNDZKNATOYKSJIHKGNOBCUHLDDNGKTOBKSJTGNPOAGJZYNIVOYKNGZIZIWJGKSVKTOKSJDVHKKSNHZPSNANNCTHSCUHNLBSKDNPZGWUGTYTOBKSZWVXRNAKSJKTBJGJOYZYLDTOHTYJKNKSNHZDZNDCZTOKSJSLKHVOYMTCCVBJHNASVCAKSJBCNWZHKGLBBCTOBKNWGJVRKSZWNOYHNAIVHHITHJGUPJDCZYBJNLGWZHKJAANGKHKNSJCDKSZISJCDKSZIHJCMZHANGPSVKJMJGDZGTNYTHGZFLTGJYONKWJXVLHZKSJXNIILOTHKHIVUWZYNTOBTKONKWZXVLHJPJHJZRKSZTGMNKZHWLKWZXVLHJTKTHGTBSKTAVAGZJHNXTZKUXVOONKSZCDKSJIVOUPSNVGJDNNGTKXVOONKHVMJKSZAZPPSNVGJGTXSKNNLGHTHKJGGZDLWCTXHHNLKSNANLGWNGYZGPJNAAJGVHDZXTVCDCJYBZKNXNOMJGKNLGBNNYPNGYHTOKNBNNYYJZYHTOVOJPVCCTVOXZANGDGNBGJHHKNVHHTHKAGZJIJOVOYAGZJBNMJGOIJOKHTOXVHKTOBNAAKSJXSVTOHNADNMJGKUWLKKSTHDJVXZALCGJMNCLKTNONASNDJXVOONKWJXNIJKSZDGJUNASNHKTCJDNPJGHCJKVCCNLGOZTBSWNGHRONPKSVKPJHSVCCENTOPTKSKSJIKNNDDNHZVBBGJHHTNONGHLWMJGHTNOVOUPSZGZTOKSJVIZGTXVHVOYCZKZMZGUNKSZGDNPJGRONPKSVKKSTHSZITHDSZGZTOKZOYHKNGJIVTOKSZIVHKJGNATKHNPOSNLHJKNKSVKPNGCYVHHZIWCUNAHNMZGZTBOHKVKZHKSZLOTKJYOVKTNOHNLGCVHKWZHKSNDZTOVOVBJPSZGZKSJTOHKGLIJOKHNAPVGSVMJAVGNLKDVXJYKSJTOHKGLIJOKHNADZVXJPJGJOJPNLGDCZYBJNAHLDDNGKKNDGJMJOKTKAGNIWJXNITOBIJGJCUVANGLIANGTOMZXKTMJKNHKGJOBKSZOTKHHSTZCYNAKSJOJPVOYKSZPZVRVOYKNZOCVGBZKSJVGZVTOPSTXSTKHPGTKIVUGLOATOVCCUKNKSNHJOVKTNOHPSNPNLCYIVRZKSJIHZCMJHNLGVYMJGHVGTJHPZNAAZGONKVDCZYBJWLKVGJFLZHKKSVKWNKSHTYZHWJBTOVOJPKSJFLZHKANGDJVXZWZANGZKSJYVGRDNPJGHNAYJHKGLXKTNOLOCZVHSZYWUHXTJOXZJOBLCAVCCSLIVOTKUTODCVOOJYNGVXXTYZOKVCHZCAYZHKGLXKTNOPJYVGJONKKZIDKKSZIPTKSPJVROJHHANGNOCUPSJONLGVGIHVGZHLAATXTZOKWZUNOYYNLWKXVOPZWZXZGKVTOWJUNOYYNLWKKSVKKSJUPTCCOZMZGWJZIDCNUZYWLKOZTKSZGXVOKPNBGZVKVOYDNPJGALCBGNLDHNAOVKTNOHKVRZXNIANGKAGNINLGDGJHJOKXNLGHJWNKSHTYJHNMJGWLGYJOJYWUKSJXNHKNAINYJGOPJVDNOHWNKSGTBSKCUVCVGIJYWUKSJHKZVYUHDGJVYNAKSZYZVYCUVKNIUZKWNKSGVXTOBKNVCKJGKSVKLOXZGKVTOWVCVOXZNAKZGGNGKSVKHKVUHKSZSVOYNAIVORTOYHATOVCPVGHNCZKLHWJBTOVOJPGZIZIWJGTOBNOWNKSHTYJHKSVKXTMTCTKUTHONKVHTBONAPZVROZHHVOYHTOXZGTKUTHVCPVUHHLWEJXKKNDGNNACZKLHOJMJGOZBNKTVKJNLKNAAZVGWLKCJKLHOZMZGAJVGKNOJBNKTVKZCZKWNKSHTYJHJQDCNGJPSVKDGNWCJIHLOTKZLHTOHKJVYNAWJCVWNGTOBKSNHZDGNWCZIHPSTXSYTMTYJLHCJKWNKSHTYZHANGKSJATGHKKTIZANGILCVKJHJGTNLHVOYDGZXTHZDGNDNHVCHANGKSJTOHDZXKTNOVOYXNOKGNCNAVGIHVOYWGTOBKSZVWHNCLKZDNPZGKNYJHKGNUNKSZGOVKTNOHLOYZGKSZVWHNCLKZXNOKGNCNAVCCOVKTNOHCJKWNKSHTYZHHJZRKNTOMNRJKSZPNOYJGHNAHXTJOXZTOHKJVYNATKHKZGGNGHKNBJKSZGCJKLHJQDCNGJKSZHKVGHXNOFLJGKSJYJHJGKHJGVYTXVKJYTHJVHZKVDKSZNXJVOYJDKSHVOYJOXNLGVBJKSZVGKHVOYXNIIZGXJCJKWNKSHTYZHLOTKZKNSZJYTOVCCXNGOZGHNAKSJZVGKSKSJXNIIVOYNATHVTVSKNLOYNKSJSJVMUWLGYJOHCJKKSJNDDGZHHJYBNAGJZVOYTAVWZVXSSJVYNAXNNDZGVKTNOIVUDLHSWVXRKSZELOBCZNAHLHDTXTNOCJKWNKSHTYZHENTOTOXGZVKTOBONKVOJPWVCVOXJNADNPJGWLKVOZPPNGCYNACVPPSZGZKSJHKGNOBVGZELHKVOYKSZPZVRHZXLGZVOYKSZDZVXJDGZHZGMJYVCCKSTHPTCCONKWZATOTHSJYTOKSJATGHKNOJSLOYGJYYVUHONGPTCCTKWJATOTHSZYTOKSZATGHKNOZKSNLHVOYYVUHONGTOKSZCTAZNAKSTHVYITOTHKGVKTNOONGZMZODJGSVDHTONLGCTAJKTIJNOKSTHDCVOZKWLKCZKLHWJBTOTOUNLGSVOYHIUAJCCNPXTKTEJOHINGJKSVOITOJPTCCGJHKKSZATOVCHLXXZHHNGAVTCLGJNANLGXNLGHZHTOXJKSTHXNLOKGUPVHANLOYJYJVXSBZOZGVKTNONAVIJGTXVOHSVHWZJOHLIINOJYKNBTMZKZHKTINOUKNTKHOVKTNOVCCNUVCKUKSZBGVMJHNAUNLOBVIZGTXVOHPSNVOHPZGZYKSZXVCCKNHZGMTXJHLGGNLOYKSZBCNWJONPKSJKGLIDJKHLIINOHLHVBVTOONKVHVXVCCKNWZVGVGIHKSNLBSVGIHPZOZJYONKVHVXVCCKNWVKKCZKSNLBSJIWVKKCZYPJVGZWLKVXVCCKNWZVGKSJWLGYZONAVCNOBKPTCTBSKHKGLBBCZUZVGTOVOYUJVGNLKGZENTXTOBTOSNDJDVKTZOKTOKGTWLCVKTNOVHKGLBBCZVBVTOHKKSZXNIINOJOJITZHNAIVOKUGVOOUDNMJGKUYTHZVHJVOYPVGTKHJCAXVOPZANGBJVBVTOHKKSJHJZOZITJHVBGVOYVOYBCNWVCVCCTVOXJONGKSVOYHNLKSJVHKVOYPJHKKSVKXVOVHHLGZVINGJAGLTKALCCTAJANGVCCIVORTOYPTCCUNLENTOTOK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    2. Relevant equations

    Use whatever tools you wish (though we recommend the frequency-analysis and monoalphabetic substitution-cipher tools, some serious elbow grease and some ingenuity) to uncover the plaintext.
    That is the cryptogram without any spaces for punctuation.

    3. The attempt at a solution

    Now I've tried to use frequency counting and a mono-alphabetic substitution cipher with no luck.

    Anybody have any idea on this one?

    Thanks,
    Crazysah
     
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  3. Feb 19, 2012 #2

    jedishrfu

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    is this for a course?

    The suggestion of using frequency analysis and monalphabetic subs tools means its probably a monoaphabetic substitution cipher. If you can identify the first few letters via the freq analysis then you might find they used a keyword to construct the cipher. As an example: dumbwaiter where d=a / u=b / m=c / b=d... followed by the remaining letters in order that aren't in dumbwaiter.
     
  4. Feb 19, 2012 #3
    Yes. He says it is something we haven't done in class before and we have done monoalphabetic substitution ciphers before. Also, I already tried using a keyword but I'm just not getting the right keyword. I tried identifying the first few letters to form a word but no luck.
     
  5. Feb 19, 2012 #4

    jhae2.718

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    Do you have ideas on what the cipher may be? From frequency analysis you can get a feel for what you are dealing with. (e.g. a flatter frequency distribution may be a polyalphabetic substitution cipher.)
     
  6. Feb 19, 2012 #5
    No. I do not know what the cipher may be but I'm thinking it may be closest to a monoalphabetic substitution cipher.
    Also, some letters may repeat itself. I think that might be the trick.
    Just to say it again: Spaces and punctuation have been removed
     
  7. Feb 20, 2012 #6

    Redbelly98

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    If you have done the frequency count, why not post the results of it? It seems that would increase the chances that somebody could help you out.
     
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