Application of Mechanical Similarity

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The discussion focuses on solving problems related to mechanical similarity from Landau and Lifgarbagez's Mechanics. The main problem involves finding the time ratios for particles of different masses but the same potential energy, leading to the conclusion that t'/t = sqrt(m'/m). The initial approach used oscillation concepts, which were not covered in the text, but a more appropriate method was provided that aligns with the authors' intended solution. The discussion also touches on a second similar problem, reinforcing the relationship between kinetic and potential energy factors in mechanical systems. Overall, the exchange emphasizes understanding the principles of mechanical similarity without relying on concepts not yet introduced in the book.
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Hi,

I am working on Mechanics by Landau and Lifgarbagez, and I have almost completed section 10 on mechanical similarity (in Volume 1, 3rd edition). However, I'm having some difficulty solving the problems at the end of the section. I have tried both of them, and I even found the correct answer to the first problem, but I feel like I didn't solve it the right way, or that there must be a more general way to solve it. So here's the problem.

Find the ratios of times in the same path for particles having different masses, but the same potential energy.

The answer is t'/t = sqrt(m'/m)

Here's how I solved it. First, by reading the question I thought hmmmmm...this sounds like 2 different masses on springs (the springs are the same) oscillating with the same amplitude. So then I approached the solution with this picture in mind.

For a mass on a spring, I know the period is given by T=2pi/w where w = sqrt(k/m)

so t'/t = T'/T = (2pi/sqrt(k/m'))/(2pi/sqrt(k/m)) = sqrt(m'/k)/sqrt(m/k) = sqrt(m'/m)

Ok, so I found the answer that I was supposed to find, but this surely wasn't the approach that I was supposed to take. The authors have not even covered oscillations yet in this book. Can someone please help me solve this problem the way the authors intended it to be solved? Thanks!
 
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"The same path for the particle" means that \alpha \equiv 1 for coordinates:
\frac{l'}{l}=\alpha \equiv 1
Having differnt masses, the kinetic energy is multiplied not by \alpha^2/\beta^2} (see your book) but \gamma \alpha^2 / \beta^2, where \gamma=m'/m and \beta=t'/t.
To leave equations of motion unaltered, we must have
\gamma \frac{\alpha^2}{\beta^2} = \alpha^k
where the left side represents the kinetic energy factor and the right side represents the potential energy factor.
Substituting into this equation \alpha=1 one can have:
\gamma=\beta^2 or \beta = \sqrt{\gamma}
or, finally:
t'/t = \sqrt{m'/m}

I hope this will help you to solve the second problem in the paragraph also :)

Good luck!
 
Thank you very much--that helped a lot!
 
And now I will display my solution to the second question (actually it's very similar to the first one--thanks again, by the way).

\frac{l'}{l} = \alpha = 1(same path again)

This time the kinetic energy is just changed by \frac{\alpha^{2}}{\beta^{2}} where \beta = \frac{t'}{t}

Since potential energies differ by a constant factor, we can write \frac{U'}{U} = \gamma

Finally, we have \frac{\alpha^{2}}{\beta^{2}} = \gamma\alpha^{k}

Since \alpha = 1, we are left with

\frac{1}{\beta^{2}} = \gamma

\beta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{\gamma}}

\beta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{U'/U}}

\beta = \sqrt{\frac{U}{U'}}
 
msbell1, sounds good! keep working on Landau & Lifgarbagez. :cool:
 
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