Archimedes Derivation: Law of the lever

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The discussion focuses on the derivation of Archimedes' Law of the lever, specifically the formula d=W/(2w)(b-a). The derivation involves a torque balance where the left side includes terms for the distance d times the weight w and a fraction of the beam's weight W. The right side consists of a fraction of W related to the distance b. Additionally, the big W represents the total weight of the beam, with portions distributed on either side of the balance point. Understanding these components clarifies the relationship between the weights and distances in the lever system.
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Hi, I'm watching a talk about Archimedes Law of the lever, and I was wondering: Does anyone know how the formula d=w/2w/b-a) was derived from the lecture drawing at 9.00 min in? The speaker just skips the algebraic derivation.

 
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With "d=w/2w/b-a)" you mean d=W/(2w) (b-a) ?

It's a simple torque balance (see at 8:51).

On the left you have ##d \times w + {a\over 2}\times pW##, on the right ##{b\over 2}\times qW##,

and ##\ \ a = {p\over l}\ \ ## and ## b = {q\over l}\ \ ## so that $$
d \times w = \left ( {b^2 \over 2l} - { a^2 \over 2l} \right ) \times W.
$$Now use ##\ \ b^2-a^2 = (a-b) (a+b) = (a-b)\; l\ \ ## and there you are !
 
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With "d=w/2w/b-a)" you mean d=W/(2w) (b-a) ?

It's a simple torque balance (see at 8:51).

On the left you have ##d \times w + {a\over 2}\times pW##, on the right ##{b\over 2}\times qW##,

and ##\ \ a = {p\over l}\ \ ## and ## b = {q\over l}\ \ ## so that $$
d \times w = \left ( {b^2 \over 2l} - { a^2 \over 2l} \right ) \times W.
$$Now use ##\ \ b^2-a^2 = (a-b) (a+b) = (a-b)\; l\ \ ## and there you are !

Thank you very much! There is one more thing i can't seem to understand: I understand that little w is the weight of the object on the lever, but right next to little w there is a big W pointing down (on the left side). What does the big W mean? And what is it doing on the left side?
 
W is the weight of the beam on which the weight small w is resting.
A fraction ##{a\over l}## of W is on the left side, and a fraction ##{b\over l}## of W is to the right of the balance point
 
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