Are Aluminium Ions Actually Acidic?

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The discussion centers on the acidity of aluminium ions, particularly in the context of the passage that links aluminium ions to sulfuric acid's mobilization of these ions from clays. It raises questions about whether Al(3+) itself is considered acidic or if the acidity refers to aluminium compounds like oxides and hydroxides, which can exhibit amphoteric behavior. The text suggests that in acidic environments, aluminium ions exist as hydrated complexes, which may contribute to their acidic characteristics. The lack of precision in the original passage is noted, indicating that it oversimplifies the relationship between aluminium ions and acidity. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the complexity of aluminium's behavior in acidic conditions and the need for a more nuanced understanding of its chemistry.
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In a paragraph in the textbook "When CSIRO scientists were called into investigate, they discovered that the cause was the oxidation of iron pyrites in these area, much of which had been exposed as a result of draining swamps for grazing cattle and the use of floodgates to drain cane fields. This released sulfuric acid, which in turn mobilised the aluminium ions in the clays. These ions are also acidic."

How can aluminium ions be acidic? Is it saying Al(3+) is an acid?
 
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I'm not sure exactly what the passage means, but it's probably just saying that the aluminates (or oxides or hydroxides) in the clay are acidic. Many aluminium compounds are known to be amphoteric (notably the oxide and hydroxide) - they will neutralize acids as well as bases, by complexing with the free H+ or OH- in solution. Others are slightly acidic and some are slightly basic.

And when it says "aluminium ions", I'm not sure it necessarily means Al(3+) but it might. Furthermore, in acidic media the ions in solution are probably more like [Al(H2O)n]3+. In any case, that passage is written too casually (lacking any kind of precision of description) to be taken seriously.
 
i think it implies [Al(H_{2}O)_{6-n}(OH)_{n}]^{3-n}

the way i understood it, the high charge density of the "Al3+" ion dragged in electron density off the water ligands, so the water ligands could be deprotonated to form the above complex (though the number of deprotonations depends on the sulphuric acid concentration) and hydronium ions.
 
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So it is talking about Aluminium when part of a compound and that compound being an acid? I know that Al(3+) cannot donate a proton (hence not an acid) unless its a nuclear reaction which I don't think was on the author's mind.
 
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So it is talking about Aluminium when part of a compound and that compound being an acid? I know that Al(3+) cannot donate a proton (hence not an acid) unless its a nuclear reaction which I don't think was on the author's mind.
Look for Lewis definition of acidity (more general).
 
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