Are boson fields the adjoint of the fermionic field they couple to?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between boson fields and fermionic fields in the context of gauge theories, specifically questioning whether spin 1 boson fields are always the adjoint of the spin 1/2 fermionic fields they couple to. The scope includes theoretical aspects of quantum chromodynamics (QCD) and gauge symmetry representations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that gauge fields are always in the adjoint representation due to the requirement of having a gauge field for every generator of the gauge group, which is a fundamental aspect of gauge theory.
  • It is noted that the adjoint representation is unique in having the same dimension as the gauge group itself, but this does not directly relate to the representations of matter fields, such as quarks being in fundamental representations.
  • One participant clarifies that the statement regarding gluons being in the adjoint representation does not imply that they are the adjoint of quarks, but rather that they belong to the adjoint representation of the color gauge group.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between boson and fermionic fields, with some asserting the necessity of adjoint representations for gauge fields while others question the implications of this for fermionic fields. The discussion remains unresolved regarding whether spin 1 boson fields are always the adjoint of the spin 1/2 fermionic fields they couple to.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the mathematical implications of the relationship between boson and fermionic fields, nor does it clarify the conditions under which different representations may apply.

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Dear Physics Forum,

I read this on a wikipedia site

"Technically, QCD is a gauge theory with SU(3) gauge symmetry. Quarks are introduced as spinor fields in Nf flavors, each in the fundamental representation (triplet, denoted 3) of the color gauge group, SU(3). The gluons are vector fields in the adjoint representation (octets, denoted 8) of color SU(3)."

and I wanted to know if spin 1 boson fields are always the adjoint of the spin 1/2 fermionic field they couple to, and if so, what does this accomplish mathematically?

Thanks, Mark
 
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The gauge fields are always in the adjoint representation. There's a few reasons for this, but the most basic is that there needs to be a gauge field for every generator of the gauge group. The adjoint representation is the unique representation that has the same dimension as the group itself.

This has nothing to do with the representations of the matter fields. Nature has somehow chosen that quarks are in fundamental representations, but it is possible to write down gauge theories with matter in other representations.
 
a dull boy said:
Dear Physics Forum,

I read this on a wikipedia site

"Technically, QCD is a gauge theory with SU(3) gauge symmetry. Quarks are introduced as spinor fields in Nf flavors, each in the fundamental representation (triplet, denoted 3) of the color gauge group, SU(3). The gluons are vector fields in the adjoint representation (octets, denoted 8) of color SU(3)."

and I wanted to know if spin 1 boson fields are always the adjoint of the spin 1/2 fermionic field they couple to, and if so, what does this accomplish mathematically?

Thanks, Mark

Note that the statement on wiki is not that gluons are the adjoint of quarks, but that they are in the adjoint representation of color.

Ilm
 
Thanks very much, I find this forum very helpful -Mark
 

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