Are Green's functions generally symmetric?

In summary, the Green's function formalism involves solving two problems involving differential operators, and the Green's function will only be symmetric if the operator is equal to its own adjoint and has no complex coefficients. Dennery and Krzywicki's book, Mathematics for Physicists, offers a thorough treatment of Green's functions in this manner.
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In case of the Green's functions for the Laplace equation, we know that they're all symmetric under the exchange of primed and un-primed variables. But is it generally true for the Green's functions of all differential equations?
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The Green's function will not always be symmetric.

The Green's function formalism really involves considering two problems,

## \mathbf{L}_\mathbf{x}u = f(\mathbf{x}) ##

and

## \mathbf{L}_\mathbf{x}^{\dagger} v = h(\mathbf{x}) ##,

where ## \mathbf{L_x} ## and its adjoint, ## \mathbf{L}^\dagger_{\mathbf{x}} ##, are differential operators. These operators will satisfy the generalized Green's identity

## \int \left[ v^{*} \mathbf{L_x} u - u \left( \mathbf{L}^{\dagger}_{\mathbf{x}}v \right)^{*} \right] d^3 x = ## term that vanishes only if ## \mathbf{L_x} = \mathbf{L}_\mathbf{x}^{\dagger} ##.

Let's assume that ## \mathbf{L_x} = \mathbf{L}_\mathbf{x}^{\dagger} ##, so that the right hand side really does vanish. Corresponding to the two problems we are trying to solve, there will be two different Green's functions, ## G(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y}) ## and ## g(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y}') ## that satisfy

## \mathbf{L}_\mathbf{x}G = \delta(\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{y}) ##

and

## \mathbf{L}_\mathbf{x}^{\dagger} g = \delta(\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{y}') ##.

If we set ## u = G(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y}) ##, ## v = g(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y}') ##, and put these into Green's identity (keeping the above two equations in mind), we get

## \int \left[ g^{*} \mathbf{L_x}G(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y}) - G(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y})\left( \mathbf{L}^{\dagger}_{\mathbf{x}}g(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y}') \right)^{*} \right] d^3 x = \int \left[ g^{*}(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y}') \delta(\mathbf{x}-\mathbf{y}) - G(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y}) \delta(\mathbf{x} - \mathbf{y}') \right] d^3 x = 0##.

Evaluating the integral in the last equality gives

## g^{*}(\mathbf{y},\mathbf{y}')-G(\mathbf{y}',\mathbf{y}) = 0 ##,

so that

## g^{*}(\mathbf{y},\mathbf{y}') = G(\mathbf{y}',\mathbf{y}) ##.

Because we have assumed that ## \mathbf{L_x} = \mathbf{L}_\mathbf{x}^{\dagger} ##, we really have ## g(\mathbf{y},\mathbf{y}') = G(\mathbf{y},\mathbf{y}') ##, so that

## G^{*}(\mathbf{y},\mathbf{y}') = G(\mathbf{y}',\mathbf{y}) ##.

Finally, if the differential equations do not involve any complex coefficients, the complex conjugation will not change anything, and we will have

## G(\mathbf{y},\mathbf{y}') = G(\mathbf{y}',\mathbf{y}) ##.

So only if the differential operator ## \mathbf{L}_{\mathbf{x}} ## is equal to its own adjoint and has no complex coefficients will the Green's function be symmetric. On the other hand, this is the case in a wide variety of circumstances.
 
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Can you point to a book that treats Green's functions this way? I've seen Sadri-Hassani's but he considers equations with real coefficients and also doesn't consider the adjoint equation.
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I really like the way Dennery and Krzywicki talk about Green's functions in their book, Mathematics for Physicists. Also the first two chapters, on complex analysis and linear algebra, are wonderful.
 
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1. What is a Green's function?

A Green's function is a mathematical tool used in physics and engineering to solve differential equations. It represents the response of a system to a point source or impulse input.

2. Why are Green's functions important?

Green's functions allow us to find the solution to a differential equation by breaking it down into simpler problems. They also provide insight into the behavior of a system and can be used to analyze physical phenomena such as heat flow, wave propagation, and electrical circuits.

3. What does it mean for a Green's function to be symmetric?

A Green's function is symmetric if it produces the same response when the input is reversed. This means that the response of the system is the same regardless of the direction of the impulse or point source.

4. Are all Green's functions symmetric?

No, not all Green's functions are symmetric. It depends on the specific problem and the boundary conditions. In some cases, symmetry may be assumed to simplify the problem, but in others, it may not hold.

5. How can we tell if a Green's function is symmetric?

A Green's function can be tested for symmetry by swapping the input and observing if the response remains the same. Mathematically, this means checking if the function is symmetric about the line of symmetry defined by the point source or impulse.

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