Are point particles always points?

In summary: In the Bohmian interpretation, the wave function is a real physical field that guides the motion of particles, and the particle itself is not considered to be a point-like object. The wave function also takes into account the potential energy of the particle, which affects its probability of being found in a certain location.
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The wave part of wave-particle duality is a probability wave. An electron, for example, is always a 0 dimensional point (as far as we know), and the wave characteristic of the electron determines the possible locations of the electron and probability of finding it in that location.
 
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Well first off the wave particle duality isn't really how its looked from the modern perspectice:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=511178

The real answer is that for all quantum objects we know of position is an observable and nothing has revealed any type of spread out structure etc for objects like an electron or photon - neutrons, protons etc - yes - but they are not considered fundamental.

Basically QM is a theory about the results of observations, measurements etc etc and since we can devise experiments that return a position we say they are point like particles - but quantum particles - not how they are visualized classically.

Thanks
Bill
 
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Jd0g33 said:
Tell me if I am correct:

The wave part of wave-particle duality is a probability wave. An electron, for example, is always a 0 dimensional point (as far as we know), and the wave characteristic of the electron determines the possible locations of the electron and probability of finding it in that location.

Yes, that's correct. But given the inherent and unavoidable uncertainty in its position, the statement "the electron is always a 0 dimensional point" is a bit misleading. What "point particle" really means is that the electron and its wavefunction have no substructure - the more energy you use to probe it the better you will localize it (although never with perfect accuracy), and you will never discover any new level of complexity. You'll just keep squeezing the wavefunction down into a smaller and smaller region.

That's by contrast with for instance a proton, where if you probe with enough energy you discover quarks. And of course electrons may well have substructure too at some small length we haven't reached yet (for example at the Planck length something different has to happen).
 
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Jd0g33 said:
Tell me if I am correct:

The wave part of wave-particle duality is a probability wave. An electron, for example, is always a 0 dimensional point (as far as we know), and the wave characteristic of the electron determines the possible locations of the electron and probability of finding it in that location.
This is absolutely correct in the Bohmian interpretation of quantum mechanics, but not necessarily in other interpretations.
 

1. What are point particles?

Point particles are theoretical particles that are considered to have no size or volume, and are considered to be mathematical points in space. They are often used in physics to simplify complex systems and calculations.

2. Do point particles actually exist?

The existence of point particles in the physical world is still a topic of debate among scientists. Some theories, such as the Standard Model of particle physics, use point particles to explain the fundamental building blocks of matter. However, other theories suggest that particles may have a small but nonzero size.

3. Are point particles always points?

In theory, point particles are considered to be infinitesimally small and have no spatial extent. However, in some cases, particles may exhibit properties that suggest they have a small size, such as in the case of electrons and their associated wave functions.

4. Can point particles be detected?

Due to their size and theoretical nature, point particles are difficult to directly detect. Instead, scientists use indirect methods, such as particle accelerators, to study the behavior and properties of these particles.

5. How do point particles interact with each other?

Point particles interact with each other through fundamental forces, such as gravity, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forces. The nature of these interactions is described by mathematical equations, such as Newton's laws of motion and Maxwell's equations.

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