Are Vector A + Vector B and Vector A - Vector B Perpendicular When |A| = |B|?

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When vectors A and B have equal magnitudes, A + B and A - B are perpendicular, as shown by the scalar product resulting in zero. The proof involves expanding the dot product and demonstrating that the magnitudes of A and B are equal. For three forces of 5N, 7N, and 8N to maintain equilibrium, they must form a closed triangle, with their arrangement allowing for rotational symmetry. The direction of the zero vector is undefined due to its lack of magnitude, which means it has no specific direction. The discussion emphasizes the importance of vector relationships and the conditions for equilibrium in physics.
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hello, i have a few theories questions to ask. (i don't know where to start for question such as these...)

Question: By considering the angles between the vectors, show that vector A + vector B and vector A - vector B are perpendicular when |A| = |B|.

Question: Prove for any vectors A and B, --->
that |A+B|^2 + |A-B|^2 = 2(|A|^2 +|B|^2)

Question: Three forces of 5N , 7N, 8N, are applied to an object. If the object is in a state of equillibrium, show how must the forces be arranged.

also i wonder why is zero vector's direction is undefined? is it because there is no magnitude?

Thank You
 
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For your last question the three forces need to form a closed triangle. Of cause the triangle can be rotated in any direction, which means that the direction of the forces are not uniquely defined, but the angles that the vectors make with one another are fixed. Also note that by changing the order of adding the three vectors will produce two triangles that are mirror images of each other.
 
third question: the forces must be arranged in a way that the sum of them is the zero vector.
 
hey :)

to your first question:

<br /> ( \vec A + \vec B ) \cdot (\vec A - \vec B) = (a_1+b_1)*(a_1-b_1) + (a_2+b_2)*(a_2-b_2) + (a_3+b_3)*(a_3-b_3)\\<br /> <br /> = a_1^2-b_1^2 + a_2^2 - b_2^2 + a_3^2 - b_3^2\\<br /> = a_1^2+a_2^2+a_3^2 - (b_1^2+b_2^2+b_3^2)<br />

if perpendicular, this is supposed to be 0, so

<br /> a_1^2+a_2^2+a_3^2 - (b_1^2+b_2^2+b_3^2) = 0\\<br /> a_1^2+a_2^2+a_3^2 = b_1^2+b_2^2+b_3^2\\<br /> \sqrt{a_1^2+a_2^2+a_3^2} = \sqrt{b_1^2+b_2^2+b_3^2}\\<br /> \Leftrightarrow |\vec A| = |\vec B|<br />
 
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sorry, there's been linebreaks missing, so here again:

hey :)

to your first question:

<br /> ( \vec A + \vec B ) \cdot (\vec A - \vec B) = (a_1+b_1)*(a_1-b_1) + (a_2+b_2)*(a_2-b_2) + (a_3+b_3)*(a_3-b_3)\\<br /> <br /> = a_1^2-b_1^2 + a_2^2 - b_2^2 + a_3^2 - b_3^2\\<br /> = a_1^2+a_2^2+a_3^2 - (b_1^2+b_2^2+b_3^2)<br />

if perpendicular, this is supposed to be 0, so

<br /> a_1^2+a_2^2+a_3^2 - (b_1^2+b_2^2+b_3^2) = 0\\<br /> a_1^2+a_2^2+a_3^2 = b_1^2+b_2^2+b_3^2\\<br /> \sqrt{a_1^2+a_2^2+a_3^2} = \sqrt{b_1^2+b_2^2+b_3^2}\\<br /> \Leftrightarrow |\vec A| = |\vec B|<br />
 
wait, we just factor them out? wow, that's cool thanks.
But why did you mutiply the two vectors? Because they are perpendicular?

For the last question i know that their sum has to be zero, but where would you place them? why are the angles fixed? it doesn't have to fixed, it could have a degree to it, doesn't it? i know that the resultant force of two forces has to be equal to the last vector, but how...?

Thanks
 
I multiplied them out because if I want to find something out about the angle between them, the scalar product tells you. So basically I rewrote your task to:

Proof: (\vec A + \vec B)*(\vec A - \vec B) = 0 if |\vec A|=|\vec B|

That's how I read your question...
 
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