Are you afraid that no one will care about your calculations?

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The discussion revolves around concerns regarding the reception of personal calculations in logic and the intersection of philosophy and mathematics. Participants express fears about the lack of interest in their work and the challenges of publishing proofs that may not be acknowledged or checked by others.

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  • One participant expresses anxiety about whether anyone will care about their invented notation and calculations in logic.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of being familiar with existing work in the field to gain respect and attention.
  • Several participants remind that philosophy is not permitted in the forum, leading to contention regarding the classification of logic and philosophy.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about a paper critiquing Kant, indicating a negative view of Kant's philosophy.
  • There is a discussion about the ambiguous boundary between philosophy and logic, questioning the categorization of works like Principia Mathematica and Frege's Foundations of Arithmetic.

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Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are conflicting views on the relevance of philosophy in the discussion and differing opinions on the value of philosophical contributions to mathematics.

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There are unresolved tensions regarding the acceptance of philosophical discourse within a mathematical context, and the discussion reflects varying interpretations of the relationship between philosophy and logic.

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I'm making some calculations in logic and I'm using a lot of invented notation and I'm hoping that it will make philosophy more mathematical but I'm often afraid no one will care about my calculations or bother to learn how to do them. Are you ever afraid that no one will care about your calculations? Do you ever plan on publishing proofs and worry that no one will bother to check your work?
 
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My two cents:
There have been some very good philosopher - mathematicians (Bertrand Russell comes to mind.) One thing that is critical for people to take you seriously, is for you to take them seriously. If you haven't already, become thoroughly familiar with the work that has already been done to put philosophy on a mathematical basis. Your comments on work that is already taken seriously will be noticed.
 
Just a reminder, we don't allow philosophy here.
 
Evo said:
Just a reminder, we don't allow philosophy here.
At the risk of an infraction... In a graduate level Philosophy of Science course I received a B for a "BS" paper refuting Immanuel Kant using Einsteins special relativity theory. It really was "BS". Just sayin'
 
Evo said:
Just a reminder, we don't allow philosophy here.


The boundary between philosophy and logic is not precise. For example, would you call Principia Mathematica math or philosophy? Would you call Frege's Foundations of Arithmetic math or philosophy? No one has a good answer to this question. But so as to satisfy you I will rephrase my OP:

I'm making some calculations in logic and I'm using a lot of invented notation and I'm hoping that it will make argument more mathematical but I'm often afraid no one will care about my calculations or bother to learn how to do them. Are you ever afraid that no one will care about your calculations? Do you ever plan on publishing proofs and worry that no one will bother to check your work?
 
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My two cents:
There have been some very good philosopher - mathematicians (Bertrand Russell comes to mind.) One thing that is critical for people to take you seriously, is for you to take them seriously. If you haven't already, become thoroughly familiar with the work that has already been done to put philosophy on a mathematical basis. Your comments on work that is already taken seriously will be noticed.


This is quite reasonable. Thanks for the input.
 
dlgoff said:
At the risk of an infraction... In a graduate level Philosophy of Science course I received a B for a "BS" paper refuting Immanuel Kant using Einsteins special relativity theory. It really was "BS". Just sayin'

I think Kant is one of the worse Philosophers from the 1600 - 1850 period. He can't get anything right.
 
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