Areal moment of inertia of a disk integral question

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the areal moment of inertia of a disk using the integral I = ∫ z² √(r² - z²) dz. The user, Musemonkey, attempts a u-substitution with u = √(r² - z²), leading to an incorrect conclusion that I = 0. The error identified involves neglecting the bounds of integration, which should be adjusted from z = 0 to r, corresponding to u = r to 0, thus resolving the negative sign issue and confirming that the correct moment of inertia is I = πR⁴/4.

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Hi, I know the following calculation is incorrect but have been unable to find the error.

The calculation is to integrate

I = \int z^2 \sqrt{r^2-z^2}dz.

Trying u-substitution:

u = \sqrt{r^2 - z^2}

z^2 = r^2 - u^2

2z dz = - 2udu

dz = \frac{-udu}{z} = \frac{-udu}{\sqrt{r^2 - u^2}},


the integral becomes


I = \int (r^2 - u^2) u \left(\frac{-udu}{\sqrt{r^2 - u^2}}\right) = -\int \sqrt{r^2 - u^2}~u^2 du = - I~?

I=-I \Rightarrow I = 0 but this is the areal moment of inertia integral for a disk (if boundaries of integration were added from 0 to R) and by converting it to an integral in terms of \theta it's easy to show that it equals \pi R^4/4. Would be much obliged if someone would point out the error for me.

Thank you,
Musemonkey
 
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I believe the error comes from ignoring you the bounds of integration. For example, if you integrate from z = 0...r then you would integrate from u = r...0, which takes care of the negative sign.
 
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