As i know, the metallic structure for example a pure copper metal

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The discussion revolves around the nature of metallic bonding, specifically in pure copper, and contrasts it with semiconductor and insulator behavior. Participants explore the formation of an electron cloud in metals and the movement of delocalized electrons under an electric field.

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  • One participant describes metallic bonding as the electrostatic attraction between positively charged metal cations and delocalized electrons, questioning why this electron cloud formation is exclusive to metals.
  • Another participant argues that the ability of electrons to move from atom to atom is due to the energy balance between attraction to their own atom and nearby atoms, suggesting that this behavior characterizes metals.
  • A follow-up inquiry seeks clarification on the forces involved in electron movement and how the electron cloud is created and influenced by an electric field.
  • One participant emphasizes that it is the energy required to move electrons, rather than just the force, that is significant in understanding electron mobility.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of electron movement and the factors that contribute to metallic bonding. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the topic.

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Participants reference concepts such as covalent and ionic bonding, but the discussion does not resolve the specific conditions under which these different bonding types occur compared to metallic bonding.

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As i know, the metallic structure for example a pure copper metal which is made up of all metal atoms that is the copper atoms actually have all its atom of metallic element bonded together by metallic bonding. Metallic bonding is the electrostatic force of attraction between the positively charged metal cations and the delocalized electrons that contribute to the negatively charged electrons cloud right?? (as in my picture)

My Question is why electrons cloud is formed in metallic structure only instead of semiconductor and insulator ??

And when electric field due to the electrical potential difference is created across the metal, is it the delocalized electrons in the electrons sea are made to move in a specific direction and constitute an electric current ??
 

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I think you have your question slightly 'the wrong way round'. If the energy which keeps an outer electron associated with any particular atom is not significantly different from that which attracts it to a nearby atom then the electron can move from atom to atom easily (you used the well known term "de-localised"). For all atoms (or mixtures of atoms) with that energy situation, the bonding will be similar - we refer to it as metallic bonding and we group these elements under the common heading of Metals. It applies to the majority of all elements, in fact.. Also, associated with the highly mobile electrons in metals, is the high thermal and electrical conductivity.
When the atomic structure is different, the mechanical properties will be affected. The atoms of non-metallic elements often combine with co-valent bonding, where two atoms can exist close together and 'share' an electron because, in this condition, the energy is a minimum (hence they stick together). In Ionic Bonding, there is a similar situation in which the lowest energy state is when one atom actually loses one electron and the other gains one - again, the electron in question is tightly associated with just the particular pair of atoms - another potential energy minimum.
So it's not so much a matter of 'Why does it happen in metals?" so much as "what do you call all elements that behave like this?"
 


sophiecentaur said:
If the energy which keeps an outer electron associated with any particular atom is not significantly different from that which attracts it to a nearby atom then the electron can move from atom to atom easily (you used the well known term "de-localised"). For all atoms (or mixtures of atoms) with that energy situation, the bonding will be similar - we refer to it as metallic bonding and we group these elements under the common heading of Metals. It applies to the majority of all elements, in fact.. Also, associated with the highly mobile electrons in metals, is the high thermal and electrical conductivity.

Thanks for your reply,is it the energy (1st bold) u meant refers to the attractive force(coulomb force) between the positively charged nucleus of the atom and the negatively charged electrons in valence shell??
and what is actually meant by the force (2nd bold) ?? attractive force from nucleus of other atoms ??
and can you please explain to me how the electrons cloud is created and moves when an electric field is created ??
Thanks a lot.
 


Actually, it's the energy to move the electron rather than the force that counts. Energy (or work) needed is to do with force AND the distance moved. It may sometimes be just a matter of force but if that force acts over a large displacement, then the energy involved can be very great compared with when the force 'gives up' after a small displacement. So we talk in terms of energy to get the right answer. Sounds nitpicking but very relevant.
 

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