Asymptotically Flat Schwarzschild Metric

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The discussion centers on the asymptotic behavior of the Schwarzschild metric as the radial coordinate \( r \) approaches infinity. Specifically, it examines the limit of \( r^2 d\Omega^2 \) in the context of the Schwarzschild metric \( -\left(1 - \frac{GM}{r}\right)dt^2 + \left(1 - \frac{GM}{r}\right)^{-1}dr^2 + r^2 d\Omega^2 \) transitioning to the flat metric \( -dt^2 + dr^2 + r^2 d\Omega^2 \). The participants debate whether the assumption that spacetime becomes Minkowski at large scales holds true, particularly in relation to galaxy rotation curves, which do not align with this assumption. Ultimately, it is established that all proposed models for fitting galaxy rotation curves are asymptotically flat, confirming the validity of the original assumption.

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This is probably a stupid question but so as ##r \to \infty ## it is clear that
##-(1-GM/r)dt^2+(1-GM/r)^{-1}dr^2 \to -dt^2 +dr^2 ##

However how do you consider ## \lim r \to \infty (r^2d\Omega^2 )##..?

Schwarschild metric: ##-(1-GM/r)dt^2+(1-GM/r)^{-1}dr^2+r^2 d\Omega^2##
flat metric : ##-dt^2+dr^2+r^2 d\Omega^2##

i.e without doing this limit the result is clear, but what happens to this limit?
 
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What's important is not that r \rightarrow \infty, but that \frac{r}{GM} \rightarrow \infty. That is, we're assuming that r \gg GM, while still being finite.
 
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The difference of the two metrics approaches zero as ##r## goes to infinity.
 
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martinbn said:
The difference of the two metrics approaches zero as ##r## goes to infinity.
But why is that assumed?
 
Could it be not true on galaxy level? It is true in the solar system and on earth, but on galaxy level we cannot fit the rotation curves with this assumption. Could it be possible that the assumption "when r goes to infinity, then spacetime becomes minkowski" is violated for galaxies?
If that would be the case, then the gravitational potential would increase. But there are examples of such behavior in nature: the potential of an atom for example (potential well)?
 
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Angelika10 said:
on galaxy level we cannot fit the rotation curves with this assumption
Yes, we can. All of the proposed models for fitting galaxy rotation curves are asymptotically flat. You have already been told this in another thread that you started yourself. Please do not repeat this misunderstanding in someone else's thread.
 
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