I Asymptotically Flat Schwarzschild Metric

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As r approaches infinity in the Schwarzschild metric, the terms simplify to resemble the flat metric, indicating that spacetime behaves like Minkowski space. However, the discussion raises concerns about the validity of this assumption at galactic scales, where rotation curves do not align with predictions based on the asymptotic flatness of the metric. Some participants argue that while this assumption holds in the solar system, it may not apply universally, particularly in galaxies. Despite these concerns, it is asserted that all proposed models for fitting galaxy rotation curves are indeed asymptotically flat. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the conditions under which the Schwarzschild metric applies.
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This is probably a stupid question but so as ##r \to \infty ## it is clear that
##-(1-GM/r)dt^2+(1-GM/r)^{-1}dr^2 \to -dt^2 +dr^2 ##

However how do you consider ## \lim r \to \infty (r^2d\Omega^2 )##..?

Schwarschild metric: ##-(1-GM/r)dt^2+(1-GM/r)^{-1}dr^2+r^2 d\Omega^2##
flat metric : ##-dt^2+dr^2+r^2 d\Omega^2##

i.e without doing this limit the result is clear, but what happens to this limit?
 
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What's important is not that r \rightarrow \infty, but that \frac{r}{GM} \rightarrow \infty. That is, we're assuming that r \gg GM, while still being finite.
 
The difference of the two metrics approaches zero as ##r## goes to infinity.
 
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martinbn said:
The difference of the two metrics approaches zero as ##r## goes to infinity.
But why is that assumed?
 
Could it be not true on galaxy level? It is true in the solar system and on earth, but on galaxy level we cannot fit the rotation curves with this assumption. Could it be possible that the assumption "when r goes to infinity, then spacetime becomes minkowski" is violated for galaxies?
If that would be the case, then the gravitational potential would increase. But there are examples of such behavior in nature: the potential of an atom for example (potential well)?
 
Angelika10 said:
on galaxy level we cannot fit the rotation curves with this assumption
Yes, we can. All of the proposed models for fitting galaxy rotation curves are asymptotically flat. You have already been told this in another thread that you started yourself. Please do not repeat this misunderstanding in someone else's thread.
 
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