Atom can give rise to singlet, doublet, triplet, and quartet states?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conditions under which atoms can exhibit singlet, doublet, triplet, and quartet states, particularly focusing on the atoms from hydrogen (H) to neon (Ne). Participants explore the underlying principles and rules that govern these states.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to determine if an atom can give rise to singlet, doublet, triplet, and quartet states.
  • Another participant suggests that the answer depends on the specific information provided about the atom.
  • A participant specifies the inquiry is about the atoms from hydrogen to neon and which of these can exhibit the various states.
  • Reference is made to the formula 2S+1, where S represents the total intrinsic spin of the electrons, as a relevant factor in determining these states.
  • Hund's Rules are mentioned as a potential method to arrive at a conclusion regarding the states.
  • A participant questions whether the original inquiry is related to homework or coursework.
  • One participant later indicates they have gained clarity on the topic after the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus on the specific conditions for each atom's ability to exhibit these states, as participants present varying perspectives and clarifications without definitive conclusions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the atoms and the definitions of the states, as well as the potential implications of Hund's Rules, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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How do you know if an atom can give rise to singlet, doublet, triplet, and quartet states? I'm having a hard time understanding this
 
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nertil1 said:
How do you know if an atom can give rise to singlet, doublet, triplet, and quartet states? I'm having a hard time understanding this

It depends on what you are given.
 
well the original question was, for the atoms from H to Ne, which ones can give rise to singlet, doublet, triplet, and quartet states?
 
2S+1, where S is the total intrinsic spin of the electrons right?

Hunds Rules, then you are done I suppose.

Are you sure this is not homework/course work question?
 
no its not and thanks, I think I got it now
 

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