Calculating Average Speed: Physics Homework Problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem involving average speed calculations for a road trip. The driver traveled 86 km at 76 km/h and 54 km at 38 km/h, prompting the need to calculate the overall average speed. Participants emphasize the importance of using the formula time = distance/speed to find the time taken for each segment of the trip. After calculating the times for both segments, the average speed for the entire trip is determined to be 54.9 km/h. The conversation highlights the correct application of physics equations and the importance of attention to detail in calculations.
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Homework Statement


So here's a problem I need help with for my physics class that's due tomorrow night.

On a road trip, a driver achieved an average speed of 76 km/h for the first 86.0 km and an average speed of 38 km/h for the remaining 54.0 km. What was her average speed (in km/h) for the entire trip? Round your final answer to three significant figures.

Homework Equations


Umm... see next part?

The Attempt at a Solution


So I know that the first thing I have to do is find how long it takes for the driver to drive the first and second parts of the road trip using the average speed given for each part. But I'm not exactly sure how to do it. For the first part, do I divide 76 km/h by 60 minutes to get how far they travel in 1 minute? Then times it by how far they traveled?
So it would be 76/60=1.267, then 1.267*86=109? Am I somewhat doing this right? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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dyavol33 said:
So I know that the first thing I have to do is find how long it takes for the driver to drive the first and second parts of the road trip using the average speed given for each part.
Good insight.
For the first part, do I divide 76 km/h by 60 minutes to get how far they travel in 1 minute? Then times it by how far they traveled?
There is no need to involve minutes at all. No measurements in the problem use minutes. How many hours does it take to go 86 km at 76 km/hour?
 
dyavol33 said:
do I divide 76 km/h by 60 minutes to get how far they travel in 1 minute?
What equation relates average speed, distance and time? (This is what you should have written under Relevant Equations in the template.)
Rearrange it into the form time = ...
 
haruspex said:
What equation relates average speed, distance and time? (This is what you should have written under Relevant Equations in the template.)
Rearrange it into the form time = ...
I know speed=distance/time
So time=distance/speed
 
jbriggs444 said:
Good insight.

There is no need to involve minutes at all. No measurements in the problem use minutes. How many hours does it take to go 86 km at 76 km/hour?
This is where I get stumped. I know it takes one hour to travel 76 km, but I don't know how to calculate how long it will take to travel the extra 10 km to get to 86 km. I know it's probably really simple, but I just don't know how to figure it out.
 
dyavol33 said:
This is where I get stumped. I know it takes one hour to travel 76 km, but I don't know how to calculate how long it will take to travel the extra 10 km to get to 86 km. I know it's probably really simple, but I just don't know how to figure it out.
You can find this time by setting up a proportion.
At a fixed rate: the distance traveled is directly proportional to the time of travel.
 
dyavol33 said:
I know speed=distance/time
So time=distance/speed
Right. Apply that.
 
SammyS said:
You can find this time by setting up a proportion.
At a fixed rate: the distance traveled is directly proportional to the time of travel.
Thank you! I think what you said was what I needed to figure out this problem.
So do I have this right:
76 km/h = 54 km/x, which you cross multiply
so x=1.13, which means it took 1.13 hrs to drive the first part of the trip
Then 38km/hr = 54km/x
which makes x = 1.42
So it took 1.42 hours to drive the second half of the trip!
 
haruspex said:
Right. Apply that.
So I figured out the average speed of the parts of the trip, so I just need to figure out the average speed of the entire trip. So I just plug it into the equation:
Average Speed = Distance/Time = (86 km+54 km)/(1.13 hr+1.42 hr) = 54.9
So my final answer would be 54.9 km/hr!
 
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dyavol33 said:
Thank you! I think what you said was what I needed to figure out this problem.
So do I have this right:
76 km/h = 54 km/x, which you cross multiply
so x=1.13, which means it took 1.13 hrs to drive the first part of the trip
Then 38km/hr = 54km/x
which makes x = 1.42
So it took 1.42 hours to drive the second half of the trip!
Those are correct except for a typo. It should be 76 km/h = (86 km)/x.

dyavol33 said:
So I figured out the average speed of the parts of the trip, so I just need to figure out the average speed of the entire trip. So I just plug it into the equation:
Average Speed = Distance/Time = (86 km+54 km)/(1.13 hr+1.42 hr) = 54.9
So my final answer would be 54.9 km/hr!
That looks good, but you should put units on the answer.
 
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dyavol33 said:
So I figured out the average speed of the parts of the trip, so I just need to figure out the average speed of the entire trip. So I just plug it into the equation:
Average Speed = Distance/Time = (86 km+54 km)/(1.13 hr+1.42 hr) = 54.9
So my final answer would be 54.9 km/hr!
Yes.
 
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SammyS said:
Those are correct except for a typo. It should be 76 km/h = (86 km)/x.

That looks good, but you should put units on the answer.
Oops, I didn't notice that typo. I had it written correctly on my paper, but typed it in wrong here
 
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Awesome, thank you everyone for the help!
 
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dyavol33 said:
Oops, I didn't notice that typo. I had it written correctly on my paper, but typed it in wrong here
Yes. I could tell by the answer you gave that you must have used 86 and not the 54 that was written.
 
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