Balance After 5 Years of Compound Interest on Monthly Deposits

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The discussion revolves around calculating the balance of an account after 5 years of compound interest on monthly deposits that increase incrementally. Participants explore the implications of the deposit structure, the application of compound interest, and the necessary formulas to arrive at a solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a deposit scheme where the initial deposit is $25, increasing by $25 each month, and resets annually.
  • Another participant proposes a formula for the first year using the compound interest formula, questioning whether a new formula is needed for subsequent years due to changing principal amounts.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about how to correctly apply the compound interest formula given the changing deposits and the need for multiple calculations over 5 years.
  • One participant calculates the total balance for the first year as $2488.33 but later questions the accuracy of this figure, suggesting that the interest accrued seems too high compared to the total deposits made.
  • A later reply provides a detailed breakdown of the deposits, interest, and balances for each month of the first year, arriving at a corrected total of $1988.35 for the first year.
  • Another participant suggests using the first year's total as a principal for further calculations, proposing a formula to estimate the final balance after 5 years based on this adjusted figure.

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Participants express differing views on the correct application of the compound interest formula and the resulting balances. There is no consensus on the final balance after 5 years, as calculations and assumptions vary among participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the changing principal amounts each year and the need for accurate calculations of interest accrued on varying deposits. Some assumptions about the compounding process and the treatment of deposits may not be fully resolved.

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A deposit of $$25 is made at the beginning of the 1st month, and successive monthly deposits after that is $25 more than the previous month (2nd month is a $50 deposit, 3rd month is a $75, etc.). At the beginning of the next year (after 12 months), the deposit cycle is reset back to $25 the first month, etc. and this pattern continues for 5 years. The account pays 5% compounded interest monthly at the end of each month. What is the balance of the account after 5 years?

So I'm trying to find out the formula by writing out the expanded version first and simplifying it, but I'm not sure how to write this in terms of exponents.

Month 1: 25 + 25(.05)

Let x = 25 + 25(.05)

Month 2: (x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50)

Month 3: ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 75)(.05) + ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 75)

Month 4: (((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 100)(.05) + ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 100))(.05) + ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 100)(.05) + ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 100)

But then I remembered the formula will probably change after 12 months since the deposits start over, but the balance is different...so I'm not sure how else to really approach this.
 
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So far, this is what I got for the first year:

(25m)(1 + \frac{.05}{12})(\frac{1 - (1 + \frac{.05}{12})^{12}}{{1 - (1 + \frac{.05}{12})}})
where m = the month...

Not sure if this is correct, but do I need to make a new formula for each year to make up for the "new" principal in the account (the total from the preceding year)?
 
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daigo said:
So I'm trying to find out the formula by writing out the expanded version first and simplifying it, but I'm not sure how to write this in terms of exponents.

Month 1: 25 + 25(.05)

Let x = 25 + 25(.05)

Month 2: (x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50)

Month 3: ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 75)(.05) + ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 75)

Month 4: (((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 100)(.05) + ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 100))(.05) + ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 100)(.05) + ((x + 50)(.05) + (x + 50) + 100)

But then I remembered the formula will probably change after 12 months since the deposits start over, but the balance is different...so I'm not sure how else to really approach this.
okay let's use the compound interest formula:

A=P(1+r/n)^nt

where A is the amount of the money in the account after the interest paid. P is the starting amount or the principle. R is the interest rate, N is the number of times it will be compounded if monthly than it would be 12, And T is time its in the account.
For this problem since your adding money to the account you will need to do 12 calculations time the 5 years.
All that would change is the principle

Year 1:
Month 1: 25 (1+.05/12)^12*1= \$26.28
Month 2: (26.28+50) (1+.05/12)^12*1=\$80.18
Month 3: (80.18+75)*(1+.05/12)^12*1= \$163.12
Month 4: (163+100)*(1+.05/12)^12*1= \$276.58
Month 5: (276.58+125)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$422.13
Month 6: (422.13+150)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$601.40
Month 7: (601.40+175)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$816.12
Month 8: (816.12+200)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$1068.11
Month 9: (1068.11+225)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$1359.26
Month 10: (1359.26+250)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$1691.60
Month 11: (1691.60+275)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$2067.21
Month 12: (2067.21+300)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$2488.33

Total for year 1 is 2488.33

You would need to do this for all 5 years.

but don't forget that each new year the deposits go up 25 and start over each year.
 
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mathpro1 said:
okay let's use the compound interest formula:
A=P(1+r/n)^nt
where A is the amount of the money in the account after the interest paid. P is the starting amount or the principle. R is the interest rate, N is the number of times it will be compounded if monthly than it would be 12, And T is time its in the account.
For this problem since your adding money to the account you will need to do 12 calculations time the 5 years.
All that would change is the principle
Year 1:
Month 1: 25 (1+.05/12)^12*1= \$26.28
Month 2: (26.28+50) (1+.05/12)^12*1=\$80.18
Month 3: (80.18+75)*(1+.05/12)^12*1= \$163.12
Month 4: (163+100)*(1+.05/12)^12*1= \$276.58
Month 5: (276.58+125)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$422.13
Month 6: (422.13+150)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$601.40
Month 7: (601.40+175)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$816.12
Month 8: (816.12+200)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$1068.11
Month 9: (1068.11+225)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$1359.26
Month 10: (1359.26+250)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$1691.60
Month 11: (1691.60+275)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$2067.21
Month 12: (2067.21+300)*(1+.05/12)^12*1=\$2488.33
Total for year 1 is 2488.33
You would need to do this for all 5 years.
That's too high; deposited is total of $1950; 2488.33 - 1950 = 534.33:
that's way too much interest! Your powers need to reduce by 1 each month.

The correct accumulation for 1 year is 1988.35; account "looks like":
Code:
    DEPOSIT    INTEREST  BALANCE
00   25.00       .00      25.00
01   50.00       .10      75.10
02   75.00       .32     150.42
...
10  275.00      5.80    1673.13
11  300.00      6.97    1980.10
12              8.25    1988.35
Next step is simply to use 1988.35 as 5 annual deposits
earning interest at 5% cpd monthly: ~5.116% annual.

Formula: F = D[(1 + i)^n - 1] / i
F = 1988.35(1.05116^5 - 1) / .05116 = 11012.38
 
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