Balistic Pendulum Velocity Approximation Formula Explanation and Solution

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The discussion revolves around the velocity of a projectile impacting a ballistic pendulum, specifically focusing on deriving an approximation formula involving parameters such as mass, length of the pendulum string, and gravitational acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation laws to derive the velocity formula and seeks to express height in terms of horizontal amplitude. Other participants question the definition of a ballistic pendulum and explore different approaches, including angular frequency.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the physics involved while others seek clarification on the concept of a ballistic pendulum. There is a mix of attempts to derive the formula and inquiries about the validity of different approaches.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their approaches and seek validation, indicating a lack of consensus on the methods being used.

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Homework Statement


Show that the velocity of a projectile with mass m that hits a balistic pendulum with mass M can be written as v= x*sqrt(g/L)(M+m)/m

L is the length of the sting on the pendulum and g acceleration due to gravity. x is the maximum horizontal amplitude of the pendulum. The "=" is an approximation

Homework Equations


Conservation of momentum
Conservation of energy

The Attempt at a Solution


This is what I have found:
mv=(m+M)V (conservation of momentum)

0.5(M+m)V^2 = (M+m)gh (conservation of energy)

=> V=sqrt (gh) => v= sqrt(2gh)(M+m)^2/m

V is velocity of the projectile and pendulum after the collision and h is the maximum height of the pendulum.

So it looks like I have to find h in therms of x. In my attempt using the equation of a circle i found that h= sqrt (L^2-x^2)+L

then substituting h with the x therm. Would that give me the correct answer? And I don't see how to go from here to get the approximation they want me to show
 
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I tried it using angular frequency since frequency is 1/time and x/time = velocity. It seems to work but I don't know if that's the right approach. Does anyone know if that's correct or if that's possible.
 

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