Beam Deflection Homework: Missing Moment Calculation for Beam Circled Section

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of moments in a beam deflection problem, specifically questioning why the moment from a 12 kN force is not included in the equation. Participants clarify that the 12 kN force only generates a moment at the 9 m mark and does not contribute to moments at distances less than 9 m. It is emphasized that the moment calculation should consider only the forces to the left of the section being analyzed, as the 12 kN load is positioned to the right. The conversation suggests that re-evaluating the moment from the right side could provide clarity and confirm the correct application of bending moment definitions. Understanding the placement of forces relative to the section is crucial for accurate moment calculations.
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for the circled part, why the why the author didnt include -12(9)kNm moment in the equation of moment ?
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IMO, the author should include it in the equation, am i right?
So, M= -258+52<x-0>-(0.5)(8)(<x-0>^2)+50+(0.5)(8)(<x-5>^2)-12(9) ?
 
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did the author miss out something?
 
The figure does not include the variable 'x'. But, wherever you put it in the range 0 to 9 m, what contribution to Mx do you think the 12 kN force would make? Recall one definition of moment that it is the algebraic sum of moments on ONE side of a section.
 
pongo38 said:
The figure does not include the variable 'x'. But, wherever you put it in the range 0 to 9 m, what contribution to Mx do you think the 12 kN force would make? Recall one definition of moment that it is the algebraic sum of moments on ONE side of a
section.

The force 12kN only will cause moment at x just 9m, no moment generated at x less than 9m...
But, I still couldn't understand why the moment 12(9) is not included?
 
pongo38 said:
The figure does not include the variable 'x'. But, wherever you put it in the range 0 to 9 m, what contribution to Mx do you think the 12 kN force would make? Recall one definition of moment that it is the algebraic sum of moments on ONE side of a section.
do you mean the x value range from 0 to 9 ? it can't be more than 9 , because there's no moment beyond 9m ?
 
Because the expression for M is the summation of moments to the LEFT of section X, but the 12 kN load is to the right. If you were to write down an expression for the moment to the RIGHT of x, you would get an expression that may at first sight look different, but, if correctly drawn up, will be exactly equivalent (and incidentally acts as a check on whether you have made any mistakes of the kind you are making now). I suggest you try that to reinforce the correct application of the definition of bending moment.
 
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