Become a Lecturer in the UK - Ben's Guide

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To become a university lecturer in physics in the UK, a typical path involves completing a 3-4 year undergraduate degree followed by a 3-year PhD. In Scotland, the undergraduate degree may take 4-5 years, but English students can enter at the second year, effectively making it similar to the English system. After obtaining a PhD, aspiring lecturers are generally expected to gain 3-6 years of post-doctoral experience, primarily focused on research rather than teaching. The discussion highlights that prestigious universities prioritize research, while less prestigious institutions may emphasize teaching. Concerns are raised about the bureaucratic processes in the UK academic system, which can hinder effective teaching and evaluation. There is a call for a shift in focus towards enhancing student engagement and productivity, rather than placing the burden solely on lecturers.
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Hey,

First off, I am new, so if this is in the wrong place I am sorry.

I'm applying to university this year to study physics (hopefully going to Oxford or Imperial, though i don't think I am good enough for that). I've always wanted to lecture the subject at univeristy, I am incredibly passionate about the subject and not too bad at talking to large groups of people (i stutter slightly but people say it adds to my charm). I've asked numerous people about how i would go about becoming a lecturer, but i havnt managed to get a straight answer out of anybody, so i was wondering if anybody here knew the process for becoming a lecturer, i.e. qualifications required (some people i asked said Mphys and others said Phd) and how applications for the job work and such, i know applying is a long way off but i like to be informed.

Thanks in advance

Ben
 
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In the UK? In England, 3/4 years undergraduate degree followed by a 3 year phd is usually sufficient to become a lecturer. Lecturers are generally also active researchers who spend x hours a week lecturing students (in return for using all the Universities facilities).

In Scotland, 4/5 Years undergraduate degree followed by 3 year phd.
 
Yeah, it will be in england, didnt realize there was a difference. Thank you very much for the information.
 
But, if you're English anad go to Scotland you will start in the second year, normally, so it becomes 3/4 years again. (Scottish Highers end at age 17, they don't do A-level). After the PhD, you will normally be expected to do 3-6 years post-doc experience (in physics, that is working on someone else's project doing research, no teaching). Lecturing is, at a prestigious university, subsidiary to research. Some less prestigious universities emphasise teaching over research. Prestige is a slightly difficult thing to quantify these days - we'll see what the knock on effects of the 50% in higher education nonsense has for the area. In my opinion, there will have to be a major re-evaluation of university life if we are to keep to this mantra, and it will no longer be the case that research will be what dictates how valuable you are as an employee of a university.
 
I feel that whilst the UK does have some world beating Universities and Departments, there's still an issue of the academics that are attracted to practice here. The UK scheme seems to involve a plethora of needless red-tape, bogging down academics who also choose to give time to teach with evaluation forms to try and qualify each researcher into grades of teacher as well.

It seems to me that the UK needs to do more to encourage the academic way rather than placing so much focus on filling in feedback forms that leave no time to make any real evaluation or change. Teachers are different, and will always have different styles which will suit different people. I've studied from various textbooks over the years, and have found some to be completely unsuited to my method - it doesn't mean I reject the subject.

More emphasis should be placed on the students getting work done rather than the lazy attitude of expectation on the lecturers to do all the work. (Yes, I know this doesn't apply to everyone)
 
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