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It may be different state-to-state, but my state (PA) requires an engineering degree.
TheRyan said:I've thought about becoming an engineer since I was in the 6th grade. I'm now going to be a senior, and still in that frame of mind. Looking at other possible college majors to me just doesn't seem to fit: but I'm wondering if my aspirations to become an engineer are similar to those of other people who have become one.
I'm starting to fill out the Common Application for colleges, my top 3 choices being Rochester Institute of Technology, Clarkson University, and Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. My top choices for a major are mechanical engineering or electrical engineering.
I do well in science and math, which I enjoy, as well as my school's offering of technology/engineering related courses, which are my favorite. I like to figure out how things work as well as learn how they work.
I've dabbled in a few electronics projects, as well as designed and built some purely mechanical devices which have been in competition and won, such as a ping-pong ball launcher and a defense arm for a balloon-popping battlebot. Legos have always been and will continue to be my favorite toy.
Some people spend time doing crosswords and other puzzles: I look at things and disassemble them in my head, thinking about how they must work and how they could be improved. After visiting all 3 of the above mentioned colleges, I'm still leaning towards mechanical engineering. I know it's possible to change a major later in college, but I'd like to get it right from the start.
I know this is a long post, but I wanted to get everything I could think of out in the open. Has anyone else had these thoughts, or am I just completely different? Thanks for any help you can give, it's well appreciated!
jlnWind said:nah I am still in year 12, but naivety aside, is it really unbelievable? or is it just impractical
Ariste said:1) Is my view of engineering correct? As opposed to pure science, which is the discovery of knowledge for its own sake, engineering is the application of knowledge to some practical purpose. Is that view correct?
DefaultName said:RIGHT! FINALLY someone is right on.
uiulic said:Many of my friends (civil engineers) tell me that they are working like machines do, do you engineers agree?
ANS: Hardly - Machines definitely have it easier :p
Engineering may be a better choice (for jobs) compared with physics and mathematics.
Engineering is a very important subject, and the discipline may be as great as the invention of other subjects.Some engineering problems are difficult and complex, which can be compared with or much more than mathematical conjecture. A downcomer plan for a city or a big city's transportation problem, a bridge over the sea, cannot be done by only a person. But an engineer's job is usually just simple work.
It really depends on what field you want to go into and I can assure its never easy to get there and work may not always be as interesting as an episode of entourage :p but its very rewarding
Engineering employs theory taught in textbooks many times, but an engineer seldom trust them. He has his experience in solving/dealing with his probems.
A mathematician is very possibily a bad engineer if he chooses to be. He can't accept what an engineer does. Although an engineer has a standard or code to work with, the standards are never really met by an engineering project(some precision apparatus related project of course does not belong here).
For me, mathematics is more difficult, at least killing more of my brain cells. I would like to be an engineer if possible. But before being an engineer I would like to learn sufficient mathematics/physics/ relevant theory, because an engineer has little time to learn them nor has he that kind of patience usually.
fatfatfat said:Hello. I'm currently an honours physics student in the second year of a BSc who is not enjoying herself.
I LOVED my introductory physics courses throughout high school and my first year of university. I thought it was amazing that almost everything we encounter during our day-to-day lives could be described mathematically. I loved that I could use math to explain everything from car crashes to baseball to music to the rides at the fair to the magnets holding Mom's To-Do List on the fridge. I used to go home excited about my assignments because I couldn't wait to see what they were going to ask next. It was always something totally random, and I couldn't wait to tackle it.
There lies my problem, though. I was only fascinated with intro physics. I liked learning about the stuff that I consciously encountered everyday. I loved the physics of "big stuff". My main love was the centuries-old Newtonian mechanics, but I liked waves too.
I figured that's what I loved and that's what I wanted to do, so I signed up for a physics degree. But now that the middle of September has rolled around, I've been sitting in my Introduction to Modern Physics course for a approximately three weeks, and I'm not enjoying it at all. Special relativity and time dilation? Bleck. Why would I care about that stuff? I've just totally lost interest. I'm not big on learning about particles. It bores me.
As a result of that, I've been starting to think about changing my major (or my degree!) but I'm still really nervous and undecided about basically everything.
On top of my love for intro physics, I love math and I'd like to think I have some really strong math skills. I loved my introductory calculus course, and I'm enjoying my intermediate calculus course, though we haven't gotten into much yet. I'm liking what I've seen of Linear Algebra so far, too. Algebra in general is something that I love. I love the feeling of accomplishment that accompanies success after a long page of complex algebra.
Since elementary school, though, my favorite part of any math class was the word problems. I liked to analyze the questions, then to take the math I had learned and put it towards making sense of something else. This is what makes me think that a Math Major is not the way to go. Plus I'm not very interested in the career choices a Math Major has to offer.
In fact I'm not very interested in the career choices that a Physics Major has to offer either, and THAT is what brings me to this thread. My Dad was telling me about a man he works with who started out as a physics student, hated it, and switched to engineering. So I've started to look into it a little bit, but I'm still not sure what it's really all about.
I think I would definitely like applying my math and physics to real world problems, but I'm not very creative. Do the undergraduate engineering courses help to mold your mind into one that thinks creatively or should that come naturally?
I'm really organized and I'm willing to put in a lot of hard work, but before I jump ship on my physics degree and switch faculties... I'd like to know if you guys think I sound like someone who'd be more suited to engineering or to physics.
I've tried to speak to the undergraduate advisors at my school to see what they think of my situation, but they just keep trying to persuade me into their department rather than really helping make the best decision for me.
Also, do you think I've decided I don't like modern physics too fast? Should I wait it out and then come back to considering engineering later on if I still don't like the physics degree?
I'm stressed out, haha. :)
Thanks for your time!
umicantthinkof1 said:Should I be an Electrical Engineer?
I've had about two and half semesters of Middle School generic Engineering and I always had really 'out there' ideas but didn't have the motivation to do them
I love taking apart computers, nintendos, ect
But I struggle in math except when someone takes me by the hand and leads me though then I kick butt
I'm a very artistic creative person
I have trouble working in groups but only when the people around me are,... dumb or just want to do the plain stuff
I'm good with computers
But do any of you guys know which Engineering field I should do, I was thinking Electrical but maybe mechanical
And should I focus on computer programming or engineering in school for elective classes?
I'm a bit rambling right now...
And when I get into high school which math, science classes should I do?
What I really want to do is work with computers and gaming systems but not really in the programming way but in the psychical motherboard, design, effectiveness type way
Sniperking said:Hello. I'm a senior in HS, and I'm planning on to major in computer engineering. I love computers, born and raise around them also I love engineering. I plan on going to University of Washington. My question is. Can someone please explain what EXACTLY a computer engineer does or better yet tell me what they design? I've google it, but it doesn't explain what they do. It seems like computer engineering is like a new breed of the engineering world, which I know is not.
Thanks in advance.
You bet they are. Unfortunately, you need to be able to sell yourself to a perspective employer. Part of that sales pitch is showing how well you will fit into their existing work environment. Communication and relating to your co-workers is important.xexx said:This entire thread seems to be based on the technical aspects and difficulties as an Engineer. How about the hiring process to those that are halfway there (crying). Are communication and interpersonal skills related heavy on employment in addition the academic success?
nf405 said:Don't be too put off by the maths in engineering- my boyfriend and housemates do engineering but the level of maths they use is much less than I seem to use in my physics degree (although I agree that this is probably not true for electric/aerospace)). I think the difference seems to be that whereas in engineering you use maths as a tool to solve a problem, in physics it is more like maths is the language you speak about everything in because its the only way you can make sense of such abstact things e.g. quantum mechanics etc. I think if you enjoy physics and are comfortable with maths but maybe aren't interested in/ struggle with abstact ideas like QM , relativity etc then go for engineering rather than physics- but you definitely don't have to be some sort of maths genius.
My second point is that I was at a science careers fair today and the people who wan't physicists are all finance/ investment companies (fine if you just want to make money) but the actual 'scientific jobs' were all looking for engineers- they want someone who can design stuff, fix stuff etc as well as just someone with maths/science skills.
Astronuc said:IMO, any engineer these days should major in as much math and physics as possible. I started out in astrophysics and nuclear physics and migrated to nuclear engineering, which itself involved some nuclear physics. Engineering is becoming much more challenging these days, and anyone who has a sound math/physics background will find a lot of companies eager to hire one.
Also, in addition to straight engineering, one has the option of an Engineering Physics degree.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_physics
www.collegeboard.com/csearch/majors_careers/profiles/majors/14.1201.html
In no particular order:
http://www.eng.rpi.edu/mane/ug_curriculum_eng_phy.cfm
http://www.aep.cornell.edu/
http://www.virginia.edu/ep/
http://www.engr.wisc.edu/ep/
http://www.princeton.edu/EngineeringPhysics/
http://www.phys.cwru.edu/undergrad/programs/bs_engr.php
http://www.ee.princeton.edu/eng-phys/intro.html
http://www.physics.uiuc.edu/
http://www.coe.berkeley.edu/engsci/ep.html
http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/
http://engphys.mcmaster.ca/
http://www.engphys.ubc.ca/
http://www.physics.queensu.ca/
http://physics.usask.ca/
http://www.ensc.sfu.ca/undergraduates/engineering-science/engineering-physics
http://www.engin.umich.edu/students/bulletin/engphys/index.html
http://physics.engr.ku.edu/
www.phy.stevens.edu/
www.coe.ou.edu/ephysics//
www.physics.ucok.edu/
www.engr.wisc.edu/ep/neep/
www.physics.utulsa.edu/
http://bohr.ms.virginia.edu/ep/ephome.htm
http://engineering.dartmouth.edu/undergraduate/ab/engphys.html
www.dartmouth.edu/~physics/academics/engphys.html
www.engin.brown.edu/undergrad/guide/enginphysics.html
www.physics.arizona.edu/physics/programs/undergrad/generalinfo.html
www.physics.umaine.edu/programs/degrees/undergrad.htm
http://www.physics.umaine.edu/programs/degrees/BS-EPS.htm
http://www.mines.edu/academic/physics/undergrad_pgm/index.html
www.fy.chalmers.se/ [Fysik och Teknisk Fysik Chalmers/GU - Hem]
www.kth.se/eng/education/programmes/master_engineering/engineering_physics_180.html
www.physik.uni-oldenburg.de/EP/
www.iitd.ernet.in/deptt/phy/
I plan to elaborate further on physics/engineering when I have time.
L²Cc said:hhmmm...ive never had to work with major statistics! and to be honest, it doesn't sound very interesting...Now, I am leaning towards electrical or software? i would love to do civil engineering, but I guess it involves a lot of physics! how about majoring in mathematics? Anyone, here, who knows about this field?
lizzy2k6 said:i'm thinking about majoring in math, but i want to go to engineering grad school. would that be a bad idea to major in math then? would that make it harder for me to get into engineering grad school?
Dissonance in E said:Im interested in music and engineering and am hoping to work for the industry, designing equipment for music, eg amplifiers signal processing units keyboards and such. Not so keen on the studio side of things. what degree is the best for fulfilling these aspirations? electronics?
Thanks
Yes, but one would probably be required to take some upper level engineering courses in the particularly field of engineering. Certainly it would be most practical to major in Chemical Engineering after a BS in Chemistry.godwinscareer said:can you do engineering after a bachelors in chemistry ?