Belt Friction Statics: Solving for Belt Tension with Given Parameters

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a homework problem related to belt friction statics, specifically focusing on calculating belt tension with given parameters. Participants explore the application of equations related to tension ratios and moment balances in a mechanical system involving a flywheel and lever arm.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation T2/T1 = e^(u)(θ) and calculates T2/T1 as 5.466, expressing uncertainty about their approach.
  • Another participant affirms that the initial approach is correct and suggests using moment balances to find T1 and P.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between T1 and T2, with one stating T = T2/(5.466) and expressing confusion about the next steps.
  • A participant introduces a moment equation involving T2 and T1, leading to a calculation of T2 as 1223.914 N, while seeking confirmation of their understanding.
  • There is a discussion about the choice of axis for taking moments, with participants questioning the rationale behind using a specific point versus another point labeled O.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the correctness of the initial approach and the use of moment balances, but there is uncertainty regarding the specific calculations and the choice of axis for moments. The discussion remains unresolved as participants continue to seek clarification and confirm their understanding.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of variables and the geometry of the system are not explicitly stated, which may affect the clarity of the calculations. There are also unresolved steps in the mathematical reasoning that participants are attempting to navigate.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


P = ?
T2/T1 = e^(u)(θ)
M = 150 N*m

The Attempt at a Solution


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T2/T1 = e(.4)(7π/6)

T2/T1 = 5.466

I don't even think I'm on the right track.
 
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You're on the right track.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
You're on the right track.

Chet
Nice avatar lol.

I'm not quite sure where to go from here.
 
bnosam said:
Nice avatar lol.

I'm not quite sure where to go from here.
Thanks. The avatar is a Mentors' April Fools joke. Hopefully, tomorrow it changes back.

Call T1 = T, and you know T2 in terms of T. So you can now do a moment balance on the flywheel to find T. Then you can do a moment balance of the lever arm to get P.

Chet
 
T = T2/(5.466)

So if I get what you mean moment about O:

75 * T1 + 450 * P = 150
 
bnosam said:
T = T2/(5.466)

So if I get what you mean moment about O:

75 * T1 + 450 * P = 150
No. Please first show how you get T.
 
T1 = T

T2/T = 5.466
T = T2/5.466
I'm lost after this.
 
$$(T_2-T_1)0.15=150$$

Chet
 
Where did .15 come from?
 
  • #10
bnosam said:
Where did .15 come from?
The radius of the wheel. We're taking moments around the axis.

Chet
 
  • #11
I'm not sure why it's the axis and not O. Is it because we're trying to stop the rotation?
 
  • #12
bnosam said:
I'm not sure why it's the axis and not O. Is it because we're trying to stop the rotation?
We're going to use both. First this.
 
  • #13
(T2 - T2/5.466)*.15 = 150
T2 = 1223.914 N

If I'm understanding correctly.
 
  • #14
Yes. Now, what is T1?

After that, you can do a moment balance around O to get the value of P. Don't forget to include both T1 and T2, and don't forget to use the correct moment arm on T1.

Chet
 

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