Best all time mathematicians/physicists.

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  • #101
i still like fourier, but after reading just a bit i found that andre weil & norb weiner probably did the most significant work in Fourier series since the 1800s. edwin hewitt was good too (at least in the 20th century) he's kind of a wedge antilles of math. he made up a regular T_1 space where every continuous real-valued function is constant!
 
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  • #102
quasar987 said:
In the list in cronxeh's post, René Descartes is said to have invented 'Analytical Geometry'. What do they mean? What's analytical geometry?

I'm pretty sure its what you study in multivariable calculus in college

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_geometry
 
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quasar987 said:
In the list in cronxeh's post, René Descartes is said to have invented 'Analytical Geometry'. What do they mean? What's analytical geometry?

cronxeh said:
I'm pretty sure its what you study in multivariable calculus in college

No, it's the study of geometry, and especially the conic sections, through their coordinate properties, getting their equations in various coordinate systems and deriving geometric properties from that. It was a pre-calculus course and gave students a deep feel for how coordinates behave, rotation matrices and such. I took it, a three hour course as a freshman in college, along with an advanced trig course. That meant we didn't get to calculus until the sophmore year, but I've never regretted it. I don't think the modern pre-calculus courses go deep enough.
 
  • #104
How about Georg Cantor? "No one shall expel us from the Paradise that Cantor has created." -- David Hilbert

[Added later:] Oh, I see, cragwolf has already mentioned him.

[Even later:] and how about a cheer or two, for whomever invented zero?
 
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  • #105
yes cantor should definitely be listed here. i think we (me anyway) sometimes take for granted that, to paraphrase kepler, the laws of math are written in the language of set theory. it's a bit hard to imagine how math could be done without even a rudimentary knowledge of sets.
 
  • #106
Please go through analytic geometry, its one of those really beautiful subjects. It also holds the record of "nearly" killing geometry as it was known during the post-Euclidean period. Not that i appreciate this, but analytic geometry shows that one can study behaviour of a particular entity without even visualising it.

If you enjoyed analytic geometry, then have a look at http://www.anth.org.uk/NCT/basics.htm . I am sure it can put you in awe of the raw power it with-holds.

-- AI(a happy geometry nut)
 
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  • #107
selfAdjoint said:
No, it's the study of geometry, and especially the conic sections, through their coordinate properties, getting their equations in various coordinate systems and deriving geometric properties from that. It was a pre-calculus course and gave students a deep feel for how coordinates behave, rotation matrices and such. I took it, a three hour course as a freshman in college, along with an advanced trig course. That meant we didn't get to calculus until the sophmore year, but I've never regretted it. I don't think the modern pre-calculus courses go deep enough.
What book would you recommend on analytical geometry Mr. Adjoint?
 
  • #108
I don't know about Adjoint's taste, but i like Analytic Geometry by Charles H. Lehmann
 
  • #109
I did most of my Analytic Geometry from Thomas and Finney. (Yes i am an engineer)

-- AI
 
  • #110
Why has nobody mentioned Boltzmann? He unified thermodynamics and classical dynamics by pushing out into two then-conceptually untested realms simultaneously: 1. atoms and 2. stochasticity.
 
  • #111
here is the site for riemann's works in english. i was the official reviewer for math reviews.

http://kendrickpress.com/Riemann.htm

i will post my review somewhere if i have not done so.
 
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review of riemann's works

Review of Bernhard Riemann, Collected Papers,
translated by Roger Baker, Charles Christenson, and Henry Orde, published by Kendrick Press, copyright 2004, 555 pages.

My father's childhood copy of Count of Monte Cristo is inscribed: “this the best book I ever read,” exactly my opinion of this translation of Riemann's works. After the shock of how good and extensive these works are, by a man who died at 39, one is overwhelmed by his succinct, deep insights. It is amazing no English version of these works has appeared before, and this event should be celebrated by all mathematicians and students who read primarily English.

This translation contains all but one of the papers I-XXXI from the 1892 edition of Riemann’s works, but not the “Nachtrage”. The translation seems faithful, misprints are few, it reads smoothly, and the translators do not edit or revise Riemann's words, in contrast to the selections in "A source book in classical analysis", Harvard University Press.

I feared Riemann was obscure, and inconsistent with modern terminology, but once one starts reading, the beauty of his ideas begins to flow immediately. There is no wasted motion, computational results are written down with no visible calculation, and their significant consequences simply announced. This is a real treat. Mysterious statements become a pleasant challenge to interpret, in light of what they must mean. Even outmoded language is clear in context.

This is a concise and understandable source for subjects that paradoxically are harder to learn from books which expend more effort explaining them. That Riemann omits details, and knows just what to emphasize, make it a wonderful introduction to many topics. Even those I thought I understood, are stripped of superfluous facts and shine forth as simple principles.

Some highlights for me:
"Riemann's theorem" and the "Brill - Noether" number, are both derived on page 99. If L(D) = {meromorphic functions f with div(f)+D ≥ 0}, on a curve of genus g, then dimL(D) - 1 = dim ker[S(D)], where S(D) is a (2g) by (g+deg(D)) “period matrix”. Hence (Riemann's theorem) deg(D)-g ≤ dimL(D) -1 ≤ deg(D), and C(r,d) = {divisors D with deg(D) = d and dimL(D) > r} has a determinantal description = {D: rank(S(D)) ≤ (d-r+g)}.

Hence a generic curve should have a non constant meromorphic function with ≤ d poles only if d ≥ (g/2) + 1, by the intersection inequality (d-1) ≥ (g+1-d) (= codimension of the rank (d-1+g) locus, in (2g) by (g+d) matrices). The similar estimate (d-r) ≥ r(g+r-d) gives the “Brill - Noether” criterion for C(r,d) to be non empty for all curves of genus g, 16 years before Brill and Noether.

Eventually one realizes Roch's version of Riemann's matrix represents the map H^0(O(D))-->H^1(O), induced by the sheaf sequence:
0-->O-->O(D)-->O(D)|D-->0. In particular the ancients understood and used the sheaf cohomology group H^1(O) = H^1(C)/H^0(K).

The proof of Riemann's theorem for plane curves, although not algebraic, seems not to depend on Dirichlet's principle, since the relevant existence proof follows by writing down rational differentials. Hence later contributions of Brill - Noether and Dedekind - Weber apparently algebraicize, rather than substantiate, his results.

Riemann's philosophy that a meromorphic function is a global object, associated with its maximal domain, and determined in any subregion, "explains" why the analytic continuation of the zeta function and the Riemann hypothesis help understand primes. I.e. Euler's product formula shows the sequence of primes determines the zeta function, and such functions are understood by their zeroes and poles, so the location of zeroes must be intimately connected with the distribution of primes!

More precisely, in VII Riemann says Gauss's logarithmic integral Li(x) actually approximates the number π(x) of primes less than x, plus 1/2 the number of prime squares, plus 1/3 the number of prime cubes, etc..., hence over - estimates π(x). He inverts this relation, obtaining a series of terms Li(x^[1/n]) as a better approximation to π(x), whose proof apparently requires settling the famous "hypothesis".

In XII, Riemann both defines integrable functions, and characterizes them as functions whose points of oscillation at least e > 0, have content zero. I thought this fact depended on measure theory, but it appears rather that measure theory started here, [cf. Watson in Baker’s bilbiography].

In XIII, Riemann observes that in physics one should not expect large scale metric relations to hold in the infinitesimally small, a lesson I thought taught by physicists writing 50 years later. Elsewhere he hypothesizes that electrical impulses move at the speed of light, another assumption often credited to early 20th century physicists.

In VI, he proves a maximal set of non bounding curves has constant cardinality by the “Steinitz' exchange” method, 14 years before Steinitz' birth.

The translator apologizes for Weber’s inclusion of paper XIX on differentiation of order v where v is any real or complex number, written when Riemann was only 21, but I found it interesting: i.e. Cauchy’s theorem shows that differentiation of order v can be expressed as an integral of a (v+1)th power, which makes sense for any v, once one has the Gamma function to provide the appropriate constant multiple.


I hope this sampling from this wonderful book persuades you to read it for your own pleasure.
 
  • #113
by the way in the official published version of my review, the editor changed my father's book inscription to include the word "is", losing the more accurate flavor of the 19th century farm child's grammar. Actually the inscription was written by my less literate uncle, and my very precise father would probably have done it correctly.
 
  • #114
Riemann and Cauchy.
 
  • #115
I am wondering how much some people posting here understand of the maths of the people they are rating?:-p It’s quite fun though, but especially to hear from the obviously more qualified people. I think it would be good to state more the criteria for ratings.

Some random thoughts.

Are mathematicians divided or continuously distributed between problem-solvers and new-path-breakers? Or is that an unreal distinction?

For new paths sometimes the virtue is just that? When you have had the initial idea it is not too hard to then make a lot of progress without being brilliant? Chaos theory is quite recent, but they could easily have made the same discoveries 3 centuries earlier if they had asked the same questions?

One asks, could I have done something like that? For the various familiar things, maybe they are so familiar that it is false, but I get the feeling I might have done something the sort of things as Newton, Euclid, D’Alembert, Fermat and a few others. Not so much not so fast. I am a bit lazy anyway. A few little things I have.

Some things are simple, become obvious once you know them. E.g. Euler’s relationship between pi and the prime numbers. I looked at it and thought how ever did he get that? Unimaginable! Then I read how it was done and – it becomes obvious! So one is convinced one could have done it. I think I would have got that if I had worried at it for five or ten years.

So some of the logical and systematic things I think I might have got somewhere with. But others are more mysterious. To actually guess the thing that you then prove is sometimes the inspiration. By report Ramanujan’s theorems have this weird quality of mysterious unguessability and even he couldn’t say where they came from. Maybe it is the problem-solvers who are the most admirable. Or this superhuman non-logical faculty to be celebrated. Ramanujan. Eordos? GC Rota? Reimann just for his hypothesis?

(I am nor a professional mathematician by the way and have only used math applications which means occasionally finding little theorems. :mad:Oh why can't I be superhumanly brilliant?)
 
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  • #116
euler
 
  • #117
in the spirit of the last comment by epenguin, people who brag on various candidates could at least read those luminaries' works.

gauss, riemann, archimedes, euclid, euler, all are available in english.

if these people are on your list and you have not read their works, why not? you are not listening even to yourself.
 
  • #118
Michael Faraday and Charles Coulomb influenced some of my aspects of studies. Many of the others I've seen readily mentioned have also.

The Farad is such a fun quantitative unit.
 
  • #119
marlon said:
Aristarchus...Copernicus basically took over his ideas on planetary motion and the heliocentric modell.

I would name Ptolemaeus as the worst physicist ever...
Gauss is the best mathematician...

regards
marlon

What!? Gauss the best!?

While I have to admit that Gauss was good, Euler was far better; As he is indisputably the most prolific mathematician of all time.

Not to mention that when he became blind from cataracts everyone thought that he was at the end of his rope--they could not have been more wrong, as he only became more productive and efficient because he stopped taking the extra time to write his ideas down!

That, and I think Euler's Identity (e^(pi)i+1=0) is the most beautiful equation in all of mathematics.

Oh, and as far as physicists go:

1.) Newton (Single most important mathematical contribution to physics of all time)
2.) Kepler (got all the confusion out of what was Copernicus's theory of planetary motion)
3.) Dirac (Creativity and beauty of the delta function)
4.) Richard Feynman (Independent path method in Quantum Mechanics)
5.) Einstein (Photoelectric effect, Special and General Relativity, Brownian Motion)

Runners up (no particular order)
Boltzmann, Lorentz (the last classical physicist), Heisenberg, Schrödinger, Neils Bohr, Marie Curie...

This, of course, is just my opinion.

BH
 
  • #120
And of course, you are entitled to your own opinion. What a shame you thought Marlon didn't.

If we are going to ridicule each others opinions, I might as well state that it is foolish to put Heisenberg and Schrödinger and Einstein second to Richard Feynman, who was a genius who came up with the path integration formulation, QED and Feynman diagrams, yes, but is far better known for his problem solving skills and fresh personality. I would put Special/General Relativity, Matrix and Wave Mechanics (Foundations of Quantum Mechanics) as better contributions.

Not to mention, Neils Bohr may be the most overrated physicist in history, and Marie Curie receives far more acclaim than she deserves, most likely because she was one of the few female physicists of the time. She, along with her husband who never seems to receive anywhere near as much credit, discovered two radioactive elements. She didn't make any discoveries about radioactivity, she isolated two elements. I don't even know the persons name who first isolated Oxygen!

In my opinion, which I am sure many will disagree with, Marie Curie did not deserve two Nobel prizes, one for studying the previous discovered phenomenon of Radioactivity (which I don't believe she actually got any groundbreaking results from, what do they give Nobel prizes out for...) and another for Isolating Radium and Polonium.
 
  • #121
marlon said:
Aristarchus...Copernicus basically took over his ideas on planetary motion and the heliocentric modell.

I would name Ptolemaeus as the worst physicist ever...
Gauss is the best mathematician...

regards
marlon

Marlon,

I appologize if I offended you in any way. It was not my intention to ridicule your opinion, as I may have come off. Gauss was a great mathematician, and a fine choice.

BH
 
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  • #122
Gib Z said:
And of course, you are entitled to your own opinion. What a shame you thought Marlon didn't.

If we are going to ridicule each others opinions, I might as well state that it is foolish to put Heisenberg and Schrödinger and Einstein second to Richard Feynman, who was a genius who came up with the path integration formulation, QED and Feynman diagrams, yes, but is far better known for his problem solving skills and fresh personality. I would put Special/General Relativity, Matrix and Wave Mechanics (Foundations of Quantum Mechanics) as better contributions.

Not to mention, Neils Bohr may be the most overrated physicist in history, and Marie Curie receives far more acclaim than she deserves, most likely because she was one of the few female physicists of the time. She, along with her husband who never seems to receive anywhere near as much credit, discovered two radioactive elements. She didn't make any discoveries about radioactivity, she isolated two elements. I don't even know the persons name who first isolated Oxygen!

In my opinion, which I'm sure many will disagree with, Marie Curie did not deserve two Nobel prizes, one for studying the previous discovered phenomenon of Radioactivity (which I don't believe she actually got any groundbreaking results from, what do they give Nobel prizes out for...) and another for Isolating Radium and Polonium.


As far as Neils Bohr and Marie Curie goes, I must admit that I agree; honestly, I just didn't want to seem sexist by leaving her off (she did, after all, receive two noble prizes in a period of history much more sexist than our own, and to leave her off may have looked bad).

And I like the path integration of Quantum Mechanics (over Feynman's other contributions) because it seems to remedy the "layers" of theory in physics (philosophically, anyway, if not practically). But I see your point.


--Bosonichadron

P.S. Thank you for point out my possible insult to Marlon.
 
  • #123
1. Einstein
2. Newton
3. paul dirac
4. fermi
5.pauli
 
  • #124
Bosonichadron said:
What!? Gauss the best!?

While I have to admit that Gauss was good, Euler was far better; As he is indisputably the most prolific mathematician of all time.

Pauca sed matura.

Euler was more prolific than Gauss, and I have always enjoyed the story of the productivity of Euler after going blind. But I must agree with Marlon: Gauss was the greatest mathematician of all time. Modular arithmetic, quadratic reciprocity (I can't remember how many proofs he had), the FFT 150+ years ahead of its time, additive number theory, the fundamental theorem of algebra, etc. As an amazing calculator, he made great strides with least squares, the normal distribution, and other statistical methods.
 
  • #125
I always liked Lagrange. Probably not one of the best of all time, but his stuff has a nice, clean feel to it.
 
  • #126
Gonna throw Hermann Grassmann out there. Out of nowhere the guy singlehandedly invented linear algebra in his dissertation - the concept of a vector space, linear independence, subspace, span, dimension, projection onto a subspace, etc - things way ahead of his time. He also invented the exterior algebra and quaternions before "abstract algebra" was even a field of math.

Grassmann's work was treated with great suspicion by contemporaries. His phd advisor Mobius failed him, so he left math and spent the rest of his years studying linguistics. It wasn't until 30-40 years later that people took another look at his work, realized what he had created, and started to cite him.
 
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  • #127
Gib Z said:
I don't even know the persons name who first isolated Oxygen!


He didn't even know it himself! :biggrin:
 
  • #128
CRGreathouse said:
Pauca sed matura.

Euler was more prolific than Gauss, and I have always enjoyed the story of the productivity of Euler after going blind. But I must agree with Marlon: Gauss was the greatest mathematician of all time. Modular arithmetic, quadratic reciprocity (I can't remember how many proofs he had), the FFT 150+ years ahead of its time, additive number theory, the fundamental theorem of algebra, etc. As an amazing calculator, he made great strides with least squares, the normal distribution, and other statistical methods.

Gauss reluctance to publish meant a huge part of his work didn't contribute to anything. Instead the results were collectively rediscovered. He was a great mathematician for sure, but not the greatest in terms of contributions.
 
  • #129
Feynman is my favourite. I still consider him being my main mentor in physics. He showed me what it's actually about. And I never got to meet him since he was dead before I was born. Pretty good considering he did it all from his grave?
 
  • #130
Gauss is usually referred to as the greatest mathematician in 17th centuries. Euler is referred to as greatest mathematical analyst up to this moment. Newton is referred to as the father of classical mechanics. From my own point of view, top three mathematician are,

1. J. Von neumann
2. David Hilbert
3. Cauchy( with over 700 articles written)
 
  • #131
Ofey said:
Feynman is my favourite. I still consider him being my main mentor in physics. He showed me what it's actually about. And I never got to meet him since he was dead before I was born. Pretty good considering he did it all from his grave?

Feynman did not show you what physics is all about, he showed you his idea of what physics is all about. You then decided to adopt it. Just saying.
 
  • #132
Werg22 said:
Feynman did not show you what physics is all about, he showed you his idea of what physics is all about. You then decided to adopt it. Just saying.

Point taken. :shy:
 
  • #133
Paul Dirac
Alan Turing
 
  • #134
Werg22 said:
Gauss reluctance to publish meant a huge part of his work didn't contribute to anything. Instead the results were collectively rediscovered. He was a great mathematician for sure, but not the greatest in terms of contributions.

I have no argument there -- I even quoted his 'reluctance' quotation in my post (usually given as 'few, but ripe').
 
  • #135
My favorite physicists are:
1. Newton-arrogant? yes. But he invented calculus and basically invented classical mechanics (not that it wasn't around before him, it's just he recognized it as "not-philosophy")
2. Richard Feynman- he's a brilliant man and I think he's hilarious
3. Galileo Galilei- I like him, he's a good guy
4. Maxwell- he's actually a mathematician, but he's more remembered for his physics contributions, he seemed to be a great guy too
5. Enrico Fermi- hilarious guy, brilliant too

My least favorite physicists are:
5. Copernicus- very intelligent, but he was a wimp...yeah they'd kill him if he had published his stuff earlier, but he stalled science by not putting it out there, not the most manly move.
4. Albert Einstein- sure he was great and his discoveries revolutionized physics, but he actually wasn't all that smart, I mean, I recognized the relativity of simultaneity halfway through high school after seeing a guy smack a sign and not hearing it for a second (I didn't give it a name, I just thought it was an interesting thought I had). I don't really have much of a rational reason why I don't like him, he just strikes me as a guy I wouldn't like I guess...
3. Michio Kaku- total idiot, he's a good writer and is good at explaining things, but he's a moron, he does junk science, like he's "looking for an equation about an inch long". YOU DON'T LOOK FOR AN EQUATION! YOU LOOK FOR THE REASON THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS OR AN IMPLICATION OF SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN YOU FIND AN EQUATION OR A SET OF EQUATIONS THAT DESCRIBE IT! Totally against what Feynman believed in, and Feynman has a Nobel and Michio Kaku has a following of science-buffs, you can't argue with that, well you can...just Feynman's belief in how to do science is much more rational.
2. Keppler- not because I think he's stupid or he did anything wrong, but because all of those educational videos my high school showed made him look like a creep.

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1. Aristotle- he believed that theories did not have to be proven or experimented with, he thought that if someone makes a claim and it is logically sound then it MUST be true...he gets Oden's Stamp of Stupidity.

okay...now that I've shook it up a bit, let's hear the controversy flow
 
  • #136
Some of the top mathematicians:
Gauss
Euler
Euclid
Cauchy
Hilbert
Gödel

Runners-up (died young):
Ramanujan
Riemann
Eisenstein
Galois
Abel
 
  • #137
In my list
Einstein
Euler
I added Einstein as first because no one would have ever imagined that some invisible atom is going to carry such a big energy but he revealed it. when ever i think this, i give big salute for the great physicists. I like Leonhard Euler for his best maths.
 
  • #138
ObHassell said:
My favorite physicists are:
1. Newton-arrogant? yes. But he invented calculus and basically invented classical mechanics (not that it wasn't around before him, it's just he recognized it as "not-philosophy")
2. Richard Feynman- he's a brilliant man and I think he's hilarious
3. Galileo Galilei- I like him, he's a good guy
4. Maxwell- he's actually a mathematician, but he's more remembered for his physics contributions, he seemed to be a great guy too
5. Enrico Fermi- hilarious guy, brilliant too

My least favorite physicists are:
5. Copernicus- very intelligent, but he was a wimp...yeah they'd kill him if he had published his stuff earlier, but he stalled science by not putting it out there, not the most manly move.
4. Albert Einstein- sure he was great and his discoveries revolutionized physics, but he actually wasn't all that smart, I mean, I recognized the relativity of simultaneity halfway through high school after seeing a guy smack a sign and not hearing it for a second (I didn't give it a name, I just thought it was an interesting thought I had). I don't really have much of a rational reason why I don't like him, he just strikes me as a guy I wouldn't like I guess...
3. Michio Kaku- total idiot, he's a good writer and is good at explaining things, but he's a moron, he does junk science, like he's "looking for an equation about an inch long". YOU DON'T LOOK FOR AN EQUATION! YOU LOOK FOR THE REASON THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS OR AN IMPLICATION OF SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN YOU FIND AN EQUATION OR A SET OF EQUATIONS THAT DESCRIBE IT! Totally against what Feynman believed in, and Feynman has a Nobel and Michio Kaku has a following of science-buffs, you can't argue with that, well you can...just Feynman's belief in how to do science is much more rational.
2. Keppler- not because I think he's stupid or he did anything wrong, but because all of those educational videos my high school showed made him look like a creep.

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and my least favorite physicist of ALL time is...
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1. Aristotle- he believed that theories did not have to be proven or experimented with, he thought that if someone makes a claim and it is logically sound then it MUST be true...he gets Oden's Stamp of Stupidity.

okay...now that I've shook it up a bit, let's hear the controversy flow

Well, i'll take the lead. No objections to the favorites list, but some of your reasoning for the least favorites list leads me to think you are a layman of physics, amateur in many ways. If you think Einstein was not all that smart for recognizing something at an older age than you say you did, how about every physicist before him who did not formulate it at all? Or perhaps every single one of them felt it was intrinsically obvious as you say you do, and just never bothered to mention it? And on Michio Kaku. You are a fool to think that the "inch long" quote is his entire philosophy of physics. Obviouslly he merely said that to engage the target audience, which was definitely amateur physicists such as yourself.

The others are so obvious as to why your reasoning is odd, I will leave them.
 
  • #139
And aristotle is probably one of the cleverest persons in history.
 
  • #140
A couple more good mathematicians are Brooke taylor and Colin Maclaurin
 
  • #141
I'm wondering where philosophy fits in here. Contributions to science and marth aren't always about solving problems sometimes it is about shifting paradigms be it putting the sun in the center of the solar-system (Copernicus), basing science on measurable properties instead of subjective descriptions (Galileo in The Assayer), representing motion on the Cartesian plane (Descartes), removing the absoluteness of time (Einstein), quantifying infinities (Cantor), exposing the naivety of set theory (Burchant Russell).

There is an inter-play here of both philosophers making important contributions to math and science and mathematicians\scientists proposing axioms with striking philosophical implications.
 
  • #142
Al-Khwarizmi, father of algebra
 
  • #143
In physics I have three favourites:

Newton, if you read his biography and his works (in both math and physics) carefully, and you are conscient of the date he wrote all this works, you realize that he had one of the most powerful minds all over the history.Behind him, Maxwell made an incredibly job. Everithing was under the ideas of Newton, and he made a revolution introducing the concept of field , the main idea of a lot of theories of the XX century, he broke the tendency of using force to solve everything and made a very beautiful theory.

And I don't forget his works on statistics, and other subjects, so for me one of the bests of the history for sure.

Finally Einstein, his general theory of relativity and the way he found it is absolute incredible for his time.

And in mathematics, I agree that Riemann achievements are impressive, his originality is wonderful.

Perhaps you have not talked so much about cantor, but he made for the first time in the history something clear with the infinite(a slippery concept for everybody during centuries), so I would put him in the list.
 
  • #144
So where is this list anyway? It has been 9 pages there must be one!
 
  • #145
In physics( I don't know much about mathematians) in no particular order here are the ones I am most inspired by:

Feynman
Newton
Einstein
Dirac
Maxwell
Faraday
Hawking

Not necessarily the greatest in terms of contributions just the ones I happen to look at with a good deal of pure awe.

Honorable mention for:
Copernicus
Kepler
Tycho Brahe
Galileo

For there work in getting the ball rolling as it were.
 
  • #146
I could say there is something that awes me that distinguishes Dirac from the others mentioned.

I would have said so even if I were not reading as I am at the moment The Strangest Man, the biography of this brilliant scientist and miserable git.

Scientists are mostly ‘constitutionalists’: they discover the constitution of the universe, its structures and components, what it is made of and how that stuff behaves. Galaxies, stars, solar system, earth, rocks, atoms, particles. Then some of them are (or also are) dynamicists, starting with those structures in a certain state, retrodict or predict what they will do (including evolve into something else). Newton, Laplace, Einstein, Schrodinger, Pauling… But these dynamicists had to predict starting with what there is (or what there can be thought to be). They had to take the constituents of the world for granted.

Whereas Dirac was the first to predict a constituent of the world. Not because of some missing mass (Lavoisier) or energy (Pauli) or there was a gap in what there is, so fill it (Mendeleev). But what there had to be. An experimentally unknown particle, the positron, only because otherwise his equations were not nice. Something of a different nature from all the others it seems to me, that raised the game of understanding Nature.

(Summarised in the books as 'he predicted and a few years later that was found experimentally', the biog. cited gives the somewhat more tortuous real historical story.) Then he did it again for the magnetic monopole, jury still out. Then his theory showing electrons not just had, but had to have, spin is perhaps at nearly the same level.

Since then other particles constituting the world have been predicted to exist and found, maybe another soon. And I read that String Theories are at the same time dynamics and constitution inseparably – but Dirac was the first of the kind.
 
  • #147
What about Abel?
 
  • #148
Underestimated Mathematicians:

Well, since no one I've read has mentioned Cardan/Cardano--who confessed to cheating on the solution of the cubic, making him a difficult person to celebrate these touchy classroom days; I have to say he was as Ore has written, "The Gambling Scholar."

He published 130 works and his Ars Magna gave solutions to the cubic and quartic equations. (The quartic was solved by his student Ferrari.) He was aware of imaginary numbers, but was unable to develope a successful theory about them.

It can be argued that he deserves credit for the cubic, since he was the first to publish. (In those days there was considerble secrecy about methods, but such is a hinderence to mathematical progress.)

Furthermore his abjuct confessions were a method of gaining favor with the Vatican, and he was restored to favor by Pope Gregory X111, and received a lifetime pension.

Ore insists that Cardano was the first to intelligently expound on the theory of probability, a century ahead of Pascal and Fermat.
 
  • #149
I think it somewhat rediculous that Newton, because he was considered a Physicst, is generally ignored as a mathematician, when he was at the very top.

"Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, Newton's contemporary and a philosopher/mathematician in his own right who found himself at odds with Newton, told the Queen of Prussia that "In mathematics there was all previous history, from the beginning of the world, and then there was Newton; and that Newton's was the better half."

Newton did hold the Lucaisian chair of Mathematics, and deserved the title of "Mathematican." He worked out the binominal theorem for small fractions, and found the Taylor series for sins and cosigns among his other acievements. Also, today noted by students for his method of root location, sometimes called "Newton's iteration".
 
  • #150
I really don't know enough maths to comment on the level that some others have (read pages 1-4 and there is a lot of knowledge on those pages!), but my personal favourite came from Archimedes, his work to find pi without any tools that we have today was very impressive to me.

From physics I like Feynmann's totally conceptual approach. For top people, I have always thought Gauss and Euler simply because in almost every module I took there would be some link to one of these people.
 

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