Block sliding down slope against spring

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A block with a mass of 4 kg slides down a frictionless incline at a 35° angle and compresses a spring by 1.4 m after traveling 2 m. The initial force calculation incorrectly used the full weight of the block (mg) instead of the component of weight acting along the incline (mgsin(35)). The correct force exerted on the spring is calculated as 22.507 N, leading to the equation 22.507 = -kx. After substituting the compression distance, the spring constant k is derived as approximately -16.07, but this value is being rejected, indicating a potential error in sign convention or calculation. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly analyzing forces on inclined planes when solving for spring constants.
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Homework Statement



A block with a mass of 4 kg slides from rest a distance of 2 m down a frictionless inclined plane where it encounters a spring. It compresses the spring a distance 1.4 m before stopping. The inclined plane makes an angle q = 35° with the horizontal. What is the value of the spring constant?

Homework Equations


F=-kx
F=MA

The Attempt at a Solution


First, the force on the block = Mass (4) times acceleration. (9.81)
The force of the block when it touches the spring is 39.24.
So, the force the spring exerts is equal and opposite.
39.24 = -kx
X=1.4, so it should be easy:
39.24 = -k 1.4
-k = 28.028
k = -28.028
But this is not right...
 
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It appears that you have everything correct except for one part. The part you have wrong is your force. You are saying the force the block exerts on the spring is mg. That is not correct. Since the block is on a ramp, only a portion of mg is put onto the spring. This portion is mgsin(35). You then set this equal to -kx or kx and solve for k.
 
So, to clarify, you're saying:
sine 35 x 9.81 x 4 = 22.507
22.507 = -k 1.4
16.07 = -k
-16.07 = k?
Because that answer is still being rejected... (both where k is positive and where it's negative.)
 
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