Boat with Friction: CoM / Minimum Time Problem

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a person on a boat, focusing on calculating the minimum time required for the person to reach the other end while accounting for kinetic friction. Key equations related to the center of mass (CoM) and external forces are provided, but participants express confusion about how to derive the minimum time and the constraints on the person's speed. There is a consensus that a speed constraint is necessary for the problem to be solvable, particularly in relation to the interaction between the person and the boat. Additionally, the role of friction is debated, with concerns that slow acceleration could prevent the boat from moving. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


A person of mass ##m## stands at the left end of a boat of mass ##M## and length ##L##. Both the person and the boat are initially at rest. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the boat and the water is ##\mu##. If the person starts moving to the right, what is the minimum amount of time for the person to reach the other end of the boat? Assume that the interaction between the person and the boat is continuous, as opposed to a discrete series of steps.

Homework Equations



##x_{cm_f} = x_{cm_i} + v_{cm_i}t + \frac{1}{2} a_{cm} t^2##
## v_{cm_f} = v_{cm_i} + a_{cm} t ##
##F_{ext} = (m+M)a_{cm} = (m+M)g\mu ##

Specifically, we have ##v_{cm_i}=0## and (placing the origin at the initial position of the person) ##x_{cm_i} = \frac{L M}{2 (M+m)}## and ##x_{cm_f} = \frac{(L-d)m + (L/2-d)M}{m+M} ## (assuming that the person moves to the right and the boat consequently moves a distance ##d## to the left).

The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to solve for the CoM position as a function of time, but am stuck on how to get the minimum time. I'm guessing it would depend on how fast the person moves. It seems to me that there ought to be some constraint on the person's speed (in order for the problem to make sense), but I can't think of what it could be. Of course, I know that ##(m+M)v_{cm} = mv_{person} + Mv_{boat}##, but I'm not sure how this helps. I also don't understand the significance of the continuity of the boat-person interaction.
 
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As you write, the question makes no sense without a constraint on the speed.
I also struggle to understand the "friction" model. It would mean that if the man accelerates slowly enough the boat does not move. Perhaps that's the missing constraint.
 
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