Boundary Value ODE: Eigenvalues & Functions

In summary, the boundary-value problem asks to find the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions of the differential equation y''+\lambda y = 0 with boundary conditions y(0) = 0 and y'(L) = 0. Testing for different values of lambda, we find that when lambda is equal to 0, the solutions are trivial. When lambda is less than 0, the solutions can be written as y(t) = C_1e^{\sqrt{\lambda}t}+C_2e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}t}, but since the boundary conditions require y(0) = 0 and y'(L) = 0, this also leads to trivial solutions. When lambda is greater than 0
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Homework Statement


Find the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions of the following boundary-value problem.
## y''+\lambda y = 0 ; y(0) = 0, y'(L) = 0 ##

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So, we have to test when lambda is equal to, less than and greater than 0.
Let ## \lambda = 0## thus, the ODE becomes ## y'' = 0 ## which implies solutions of the form ## y(t) = C_1t+C_2 ## which would make the derivative ## y'(t) = C_1 ##. When we apply our boundary conditions we see that ## y(0) = C_2 = 0 ## and ##y'(L) = C_1 = 0 ## which are trivial solutions.

Let ## \lambda < 0 ## thus, the ODE becomes ## y''- \lambda y = 0 ## which implies solutions of the form ## y(t) = C_1e^{\sqrt{\lambda}t}+C_2e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}t} ## which would make the derivative ## y'(t) = \sqrt{\lambda}C_1e^{\sqrt{\lambda}t}-\sqrt{\lambda}C_2e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}t} ##. When we apply our boundary conditions we see that ## y(0) = C_1+C_2 = 0 ## therefore ## C_2=-C_1 ## and ## y'(L) = \sqrt{\lambda}C_1e^{\sqrt{\lambda}L}-\sqrt{\lambda}C_2e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}L} = \sqrt{\lambda}C_1e^{\sqrt{\lambda}L}+\sqrt{\lambda}C_1e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}L} = C_1[e^{\sqrt{\lambda}L}+e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}L} = 0 ## Since the exponentials can't ever be zero, it implies that ## C_1 = 0 ## this, these solutions are trivial.

Let ## \lambda > 0 ## thus, the ODE becomes ## y''+\lambda y = 0 ## which implies solutions of the form ## y(t) = C_1\cos{\sqrt{\lambda}t}+ C_2\sin{\sqrt{\lambda}t}. ##Which would make the derivative ## y'(t) = -\sqrt{\lambda}C_1\sin{\sqrt{\lambda}t} + \sqrt{\lambda}C_2\cos{\sqrt{\lambda}t} ##. When I apply my boundary conditions, we see that ## y(0) = C_1 = 0 ## and ## y'(L) = C_2\cos\sqrt{\lambda}L = 0 ## Now we solve for ## \lambda ## to see that ## \sqrt{\lambda} L = \frac{n\pi}{2} ## which makes ## \lambda = \frac{n^2\pi^2}{4L^2} ##

Thus, our solution for this boundary problem would be ## y(t) = C\sin\frac{n\pi}{2L}t ## for ## \lambda = \frac{n^2\pi^2}{4L^2}## but the solution in the book is ## y(t) = C\sin\frac{(2n+1)\pi}{2L}t ## for ## \lambda = \frac{(2n+1)^2\pi^2}{4L^2}## which I don't understand why we are limiting our n to be odd?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Homework Statement


Find the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions of the following boundary-value problem.
## y''+\lambda y = 0 ; y(0) = 0, y'(L) = 0 ##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


So, we have to test when lambda is equal to, less than and greater than 0.
Let ## \lambda = 0## thus, the ODE becomes ## y'' = 0 ## which implies solutions of the form ## y(t) = C_1t+C_2 ## which would make the derivative ## y'(t) = C_1 ##. When we apply our boundary conditions we see that ## y(0) = C_2 = 0 ## and ##y'(L) = C_1 = 0 ## which are trivial solutions.

Let ## \lambda < 0 ## thus, the ODE becomes ## y''- \lambda y = 0 ## which implies solutions of the form ## y(t) = C_1e^{\sqrt{\lambda}t}+C_2e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}t} ## which would make the derivative ## y'(t) = \sqrt{\lambda}C_1e^{\sqrt{\lambda}t}-\sqrt{\lambda}C_2e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}t} ##. When we apply our boundary conditions we see that ## y(0) = C_1+C_2 = 0 ## therefore ## C_2=-C_1 ## and ## y'(L) = \sqrt{\lambda}C_1e^{\sqrt{\lambda}L}-\sqrt{\lambda}C_2e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}L} = \sqrt{\lambda}C_1e^{\sqrt{\lambda}L}+\sqrt{\lambda}C_1e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}L} = C_1[e^{\sqrt{\lambda}L}+e^{-\sqrt{\lambda}L} = 0 ## Since the exponentials can't ever be zero, it implies that ## C_1 = 0 ## this, these solutions are trivial.

Let ## \lambda > 0 ## thus, the ODE becomes ## y''+\lambda y = 0 ## which implies solutions of the form ## y(t) = C_1\cos{\sqrt{\lambda}t}+ C_2\sin{\sqrt{\lambda}t}. ##Which would make the derivative ## y'(t) = -\sqrt{\lambda}C_1\sin{\sqrt{\lambda}t} + \sqrt{\lambda}C_2\cos{\sqrt{\lambda}t} ##. When I apply my boundary conditions, we see that ## y(0) = C_1 = 0 ## and ## y'(L) = C_2\cos\sqrt{\lambda}L = 0 ## Now we solve for ## \lambda ## to see that ## \sqrt{\lambda} L = \frac{n\pi}{2} ## which makes ## \lambda = \frac{n^2\pi^2}{4L^2} ##
##\cos\sqrt{\lambda}L = 0 ## is what you want. But the cosine is not zero for all integer multiples of ##\frac \pi 2##, just for odd multiples. Try an even multiple for example.

Thus, our solution for this boundary problem would be ## y(t) = C\sin\frac{n\pi}{2L}t ## for ## \lambda = \frac{n^2\pi^2}{4L^2}## but the solution in the book is ## y(t) = C\sin\frac{(2n+1)\pi}{2L}t ## for ## \lambda = \frac{(2n+1)^2\pi^2}{4L^2}## which I don't understand why we are limiting our n to be odd?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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What is a boundary value ODE?

A boundary value ODE (ordinary differential equation) is a type of differential equation that involves finding a function that satisfies certain conditions at its boundaries or endpoints. These conditions are typically given as specific values or relationships between the function and its derivatives.

What are eigenvalues and eigenfunctions in the context of boundary value ODEs?

In the context of boundary value ODEs, eigenvalues and eigenfunctions refer to the specific values and corresponding functions that satisfy the boundary conditions of the differential equation. They are important in solving boundary value ODEs because they allow us to simplify the problem and find a solution using linear algebra methods.

How do you find eigenvalues and eigenfunctions for a boundary value ODE?

To find the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions for a boundary value ODE, we can use the method of separation of variables. This involves assuming a solution of the form y(x) = u(x)v(x) and substituting it into the differential equation, then solving for the values of v(x) and u(x) that satisfy the boundary conditions.

What is the significance of eigenvalues and eigenfunctions in solving boundary value ODEs?

Eigenvalues and eigenfunctions are significant in solving boundary value ODEs because they allow us to transform the problem into a simpler form that can be solved using linear algebra techniques. By finding the eigenvalues and corresponding eigenfunctions, we can then construct a general solution to the boundary value ODE using a linear combination of these eigenfunctions.

What are some real-world applications of boundary value ODEs?

Boundary value ODEs have many real-world applications, including modeling physical systems such as heat transfer, fluid flow, and electrical circuits. They are also used in economics, chemistry, and biology to describe various processes and phenomena. Additionally, boundary value ODEs are important in engineering and other fields for designing and optimizing systems and structures.

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