Boundry conditions on a string with a hoop at one end

In summary, the conversation is about problem 4.4 in a physics assignment on vibrations and waves. The person is having trouble understanding why Tsinθ becomes -T∂y/∂x for part a. The solution is that Tsinθ is essentially the ratio of vertical tension to horizontal tension, and the small angle approximation comes in because for small angles, tan(θ) ≈ sin(θ). This means that sin(θ) ≈ tan(θ) = ∂y/∂x.
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Homework Statement



problem 4.4

The question:
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/...ions-and-waves-fall-2004/assignments/ps4a.pdf

The solution:
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/...ons-and-waves-fall-2004/assignments/sol4a.pdf




Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


For part a I am having trouble understanding why Tsinθ becomes -T∂y/∂x

If we were dealing with small angles would it not be the case that

sinθ ≈θ


and so we would have
Tsinθ≈Tθ
 
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[itex] \frac{\partial y}{\partial x} [/itex] is essentially the ratio of vertical tension to horizontal tension, much like [itex] tan(\theta) [/itex]. It's a little confusing because obviously you're thinking about the hoop, which only moves vertically, but in this context you can think of it as representing the direction the hoop would go if it suddenly flew off of the rod, at which point the only force acting on the hoop would be the tension at the contact point (ignoring gravity), thus it would fly in that direction. Another way to think of it is simply as the instantaneous "slope" of the string.

The small angle approximation comes in because for small angles [itex] tan(\theta) \simeq sin(\theta) [/itex]. (or equivalently, [itex] T_{x} \simeq T_{tot} [/itex].)

Thus we can put it all together: [itex] sin(\theta) \simeq tan(\theta) = \frac{\partial y}{\partial x}[/itex]
 
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Thank you very much bossman27!
 

Related to Boundry conditions on a string with a hoop at one end

What is a boundary condition?

A boundary condition is a set of conditions that must be satisfied at the boundary of a system or object. In the context of a string with a hoop at one end, a boundary condition may refer to the constraints placed on the string at the point where it meets the hoop.

How do boundary conditions affect the behavior of a string with a hoop at one end?

Boundary conditions play a crucial role in determining the behavior of a string with a hoop at one end. They can affect the amplitude, frequency, and wavelength of the string's vibrations, as well as the points at which the string is fixed or free to move.

What are some common boundary conditions for a string with a hoop at one end?

Some common boundary conditions for a string with a hoop at one end include fixed or free endpoints, clamped or free edges, and pinned or roller supports. These conditions can vary depending on the specific properties of the string and the hoop.

How do you determine the boundary conditions for a specific string and hoop system?

Determining the boundary conditions for a specific string and hoop system requires a thorough understanding of the system's properties, such as the material and dimensions of the string and hoop, as well as the forces acting upon it. Mathematical equations and physical experiments can also be used to determine the appropriate boundary conditions.

Can boundary conditions be changed or manipulated?

Yes, boundary conditions can be changed or manipulated in certain cases. For example, if the string is clamped at one end and free at the other, the clamped end can be made free by removing the clamp. However, manipulating boundary conditions can significantly alter the behavior of the string and should be done with caution.

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