Bronze Age or Iron Age? Age of Nebra Sky Disk is disputed

In summary, the age of the Nebra (from Germany) Sky Disk (claimed to be the oldest known representation of the heavens) is in dispute. It was found in the black market, so provenance is unclear. There are definitely some hinky things about the Nebra Disk. The Pleiades shows seven stars, but that's the myth and not the astronomy - most cultures (e.g. Greece, Japan) count six. It suggests contact with Hellenic culture. The age of the Nebra Disk is in dispute. It was found in the black market, so provenance is unclear. There are definitely some hinky things about the Nebra Disk. Pb-210 might tell us something. One could even
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The age of the Nebra (from Germany) Sky Disk (claimed to be the oldest known representation of the heavens) is in dispute.
It was found in the black market, so provenance is unclear.
NY Times article here.

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There are definitely some hinky things about the Nebra Disk.

The "Pleiades" shows seven stars, but that's the myth and not the astronomy - most cultures (e.g. Greece, Japan) count six. (The connection with mythology is unclear, as one was supposed to be invisible for marrying a mortal. Thing is, that was Merope, 5th brightest, magnitude 4.) It suggests contact with Hellenic culture.

I'm wondering if there is any lead in the metal. Pb-210 might tell us something. One could even date the disk, although not right away - it would involve burying modern lead in the same place.
 
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Particle accelerator + C14 from co-found
The Federal Institute for Materials Research and Testing irradiated the gold plating at the BESSY particle accelerator with high-intensity X-rays. It was found that the gold plating does not have a uniform composition. The sky disc was probably created in several chronologically separated phases. These results agree with another finding. Christian-Heinrich Wunderlich from the State Office for Monument Preservation and Archeology in Halle extracted around 0.6 mg of carbon from a piece of birch bark that was found on one of the swords. Its radiocarbon dating showed that the piece of wood dates from around 1600 to 1560 BC.
versus doubt of the co in co-found + similarities of motifs
In September 2020, the two researchers Rupert Gebhard and Rüdiger Krause published a controversial reassessment according to which the disk should not come from the early Bronze Age, but rather from the Iron Age (approx. 800 to 50 BC). After analyzing the context of the find, they saw no convincing evidence that the artefacts found together with the disk and undisputedly from the Bronze Age would form an ensemble belonging to the disk. Gebhard and Krause also pointed out similarities between the sky disk and pictorial motifs from the Iron Age.
I go with the 1st version, especially as it offers the possibility that those motifs might have been added later.
 
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The dim dead sister appears with the Pleiades throughout science fiction and pre-science myths and legend. Iron Age reworking of an older artifact, if correct, still retains value. In fine art, famous forgeries often eclipse the original.

In one SF novel future human visitors from Neptune's moon Triton bury a bronze age astrolabe in the rubble of a Mongolian archeological dig as an ironic artistic statement to future archeologists.
 
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1. What is the Bronze Age and Iron Age?

The Bronze Age and Iron Age are both periods of prehistory and history where human societies began to use metal, specifically bronze and iron, for tools, weapons, and other objects.

2. What is the difference between the Bronze Age and Iron Age?

The main difference between the Bronze Age and Iron Age is the type of metal used. The Bronze Age was characterized by the use of bronze, an alloy of copper and tin, while the Iron Age saw the widespread use of iron, which was stronger and more readily available.

3. How long did the Bronze Age and Iron Age last?

The Bronze Age lasted from around 3300 BCE to 1200 BCE, while the Iron Age began around 1200 BCE and lasted until the widespread use of steel in the 5th century BCE.

4. What is the Nebra Sky Disk and why is its age disputed?

The Nebra Sky Disk is a bronze disk with astronomical symbols found in Germany. Its age is disputed because it was illegally excavated and sold on the black market, making it difficult to accurately date. Some experts believe it is from the Bronze Age, while others argue it is from the Iron Age.

5. How do we know about the Bronze Age and Iron Age?

Archaeological evidence, such as artifacts and structures, as well as written records from civilizations that existed during these periods, provide information about the Bronze Age and Iron Age. Scientists also use radiocarbon dating and other scientific methods to determine the age of objects and materials from these time periods.

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