Bullet is fired into block at at offset, conversation of kinetic energy?

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The discussion revolves around a problem in mechanics, specifically focusing on the conservation of kinetic energy during an impact scenario involving a bullet and a block. The original poster seeks to determine the percentage of the bullet's initial kinetic energy that is conserved after the impact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster describes their approach involving calculations of mass moment of inertia and angular momentum, but indicates they received an incorrect answer. Other participants question the point about which the bullet and block will rotate and the relevant moment of inertia calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing insights into the moment of inertia and the center of mass. There is a lack of consensus on the specifics of the rotational dynamics and the assumptions regarding the system's behavior.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of uncertainty regarding the relevance of certain equations and the definitions of variables such as the radius in the moment of inertia calculations. The original poster's attempts suggest a complex interplay of linear and angular momentum concepts.

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Hello, first year engineering student here :)https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t35.0-12/10744040_871781156179440_107104578_o.jpg?oh=73c4261941e7ef6b7c682558c0925a63&oe=544F5CA4&__gda__=1414428985_0415c28b8b2e194bf0b57f065267fe49 [/B]

The question is

in Case B, what percentage of the bullet's initial KE is conserved as KE in the impact?

Homework Equations



KE=(1/2)*m*v^2 + (1/2)*I*w^2 where I=mass moment of inertia, w=angular velocity
(angular momentum) H=m*v*r*sin(theta) (maybe? Not sure if this is revelant...)
(angular momentum) H=I*w (also not sure if relevant)

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the mass moment of the block using I=(1/12)*m*(a^2+b^2) and the bullet I=m*r^2,
then I used H=m*v*r*sin(theta) to find H, then use w=H/I to find angular velocity, where I is I(bullet)+I(block)

then I plugged in all the values into the first KE equation above, but got the wrong answer. (BTW, I found final v of the block+bullet by Conservation of Momentum)
 
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I've had enough conversations of kinetic energy for one night :)
 
About what point will bullet+block rotate? What is the moment of inertia about that point?
 
I think the bullet+block will rotate about its centre of mass? If that's the case then the moment of inertia can be found using I=1/2*m*(a^2+b^2). But the question hints that we should include the bullet's effect on the moment of inertia (the bullet's moment of inertia would be I=m*r^2, yeah?).
 
tomorrow_808 said:
I think the bullet+block will rotate about its centre of mass?
The centre of mass of what, precisely?
the bullet's moment of inertia would be I=m*r^2, yeah?).
Where r is what?
 

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