Bullet is fired into block at at offset, conversation of kinetic energy?

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The discussion centers around calculating the kinetic energy (KE) conservation when a bullet impacts a block. The student is attempting to determine what percentage of the bullet's initial KE is retained after the impact, using equations for kinetic energy and angular momentum. They have calculated the mass moment of inertia for both the block and bullet but are struggling to find the correct answer. Key points include the need to consider the center of mass for rotation and how the bullet's moment of inertia affects the overall system. The conversation highlights the complexities of applying conservation laws in dynamics problems.
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Homework Statement


Hello, first year engineering student here :)https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t35.0-12/10744040_871781156179440_107104578_o.jpg?oh=73c4261941e7ef6b7c682558c0925a63&oe=544F5CA4&__gda__=1414428985_0415c28b8b2e194bf0b57f065267fe49 [/B]

The question is

in Case B, what percentage of the bullet's initial KE is conserved as KE in the impact?

Homework Equations



KE=(1/2)*m*v^2 + (1/2)*I*w^2 where I=mass moment of inertia, w=angular velocity
(angular momentum) H=m*v*r*sin(theta) (maybe? Not sure if this is revelant...)
(angular momentum) H=I*w (also not sure if relevant)

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the mass moment of the block using I=(1/12)*m*(a^2+b^2) and the bullet I=m*r^2,
then I used H=m*v*r*sin(theta) to find H, then use w=H/I to find angular velocity, where I is I(bullet)+I(block)

then I plugged in all the values into the first KE equation above, but got the wrong answer. (BTW, I found final v of the block+bullet by Conservation of Momentum)
 
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I've had enough conversations of kinetic energy for one night :)
 
About what point will bullet+block rotate? What is the moment of inertia about that point?
 
I think the bullet+block will rotate about its centre of mass? If that's the case then the moment of inertia can be found using I=1/2*m*(a^2+b^2). But the question hints that we should include the bullet's effect on the moment of inertia (the bullet's moment of inertia would be I=m*r^2, yeah?).
 
tomorrow_808 said:
I think the bullet+block will rotate about its centre of mass?
The centre of mass of what, precisely?
the bullet's moment of inertia would be I=m*r^2, yeah?).
Where r is what?
 
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