Buoyancy Equilibrium on a balance

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A beaker filled with water is balanced on a scale, and a submerged cube creates a buoyant force that affects equilibrium. The cube's volume is 64 cm³, leading to a buoyant force equal to the water's density multiplied by the cube's volume and gravity. To restore balance, a weight m must be added to the opposite pan, which equals the buoyant force, calculated as 0.064 kg. The discussion emphasizes that the forces acting on the cube include its weight, buoyant force, and string tension, all contributing to the overall equilibrium. Understanding these forces helps clarify the relationship between buoyancy and the weight needed for balance.
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A beaker filled with water is balanced on the left pan of a balance. A cube of 4 cm on an edge is attached to a string and lowered into the water so that it is completely submerged. The cube is not touching the bottom of the beaker. A weight of mass m is added to the right pan to restore equilibrium. What is m ?

Well i know that the volume of the cube is 64 cm^3 or 6.4x10^-5 m^3. And the buoyancy force would be the density of the water times the volume of the cube times g. But that's all I've gotten pretty much. I've tried using summation of torques about the pivot of the balance, but it just gets me more and more lost. All I need is a step in the right direction. Would i take into consideration the beaker's mass or density? It doesn't really specify it, but I would think it is made of glass and so the density of glass is 2.6 x 10^3 kg/m^3. The density of water is 1000kg/m^3 and i don't know if it is needed either but the density of air is 1.293 kg/m^3. Thanks.
 
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Since the cube is completely submerged and not touching the bottom, there is no net force acting on it. So the buoyancy cancels out the gravitational force on the cube.
 
Galileo said:
Since the cube is completely submerged and not touching the bottom, there is no net force acting on it. So the buoyancy cancels out the gravitational force on the cube.
True, the cube has no net force acting on it. But there are three forces acting on it: its weight, the string tension, and the buoyant force.

When the cube is lowered into the water, the left pan of the balance will experience an added force equal to the buoyant force on the cube. Choose the mass m accordingly.
 
When the cube is lowered into the water, the left pan of the balance will experience an added force equal to the buoyant force on the cube. Choose the mass m accordingly.

so are you saying the force mg on the right pan is equal to the buyoyant force on the cube in the beaker on the left pan? If this were true, then the density of the water times the volume of the cube would equal that mass m; which would turn out to be 0.064 kg. Is this correct? Or is there something I am missing?
 
Exactly correct.
 
ok i see. thank you, Doc Al, for helping me out. I spent hours on that problem and didnt realize that it would be like that. I know the problem is done and all, but how do you know that the buoyancy force is equal to the weight of the mass on the right pan? I mean to say, what principles or laws can be used to show this?
 
Excellent question. I'm glad to see you thinking.

There are several ways to understand what's going on.

Analyze the forces on the cube. Apply the equilibrium condition to figure out what the tension in the string must be.

Then analyze the forces on the beaker plus contents as a single system. What are all the forces acting on that system?
 
well the summation of forces on the cube shows the tension force is equal to the weight of the cube minus the Buoyant force. The new forces in the beaker system are the Normal force by the balance pan and the weight of the beaker. But isn't the weight of the beaker dependent on the weight of the water inside it as well as the apparent weight of the cube?
 
Torquenstein101 said:
well the summation of forces on the cube shows the tension force is equal to the weight of the cube minus the Buoyant force.
Right.
The new forces in the beaker system are the Normal force by the balance pan and the weight of the beaker.
Don't forget the string pulling up.
But isn't the weight of the beaker dependent on the weight of the water inside it as well as the apparent weight of the cube?
The weight of the beaker system just depends on the mass of its contents: beaker, water, and cube.
 
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