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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the availability and use of small superconductors for educational projects, particularly in the context of building a model maglev train. Participants explore different materials, cooling requirements, and safety considerations associated with handling superconductors and cryogenic fluids.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about where to buy small superconductors online, acknowledging the need for low temperatures for superconductivity.
  • Another participant suggests lead as a superconductor below 7.25 K.
  • A different participant mentions YBa2Cu3O7-δ as a suitable material, depending on the cooling capabilities.
  • It is noted that demo kits containing YBCO are available, which can become superconducting at 92 K using liquid nitrogen.
  • Participants discuss various metals that can become superconducting, including aluminum, lead, titanium, niobium, and rhenium, while noting exceptions like gold.
  • One participant expresses intent to use lead sheets for a science project involving a model maglev train.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of using liquid helium to cool lead, suggesting that YBCO or BSCCO would be more suitable with liquid nitrogen.
  • Safety considerations regarding the handling of liquid nitrogen are debated, with one participant arguing it is manageable with proper precautions, while another emphasizes the need for supervision, especially for younger users.
  • There is a reiteration of the need for proper protective gear when handling cryogenic fluids, referencing educational practices from a participant's experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the practicality and safety of using various superconductors and cooling methods. While some suggest lead as a viable option, others argue for the use of YBCO or BSCCO with liquid nitrogen as a more practical and safer choice. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for educational projects involving superconductors.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations regarding the availability of liquid helium and the associated costs, as well as the need for proper supervision and safety measures when handling cryogenic materials. There are also unresolved questions about the effectiveness of different superconductors for specific applications.

Trevor Stanfill
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Hello, I have been looking at superconductors lately and was wondering if there was anywhere I could get a small superconductor online. I realize for it to actually conduct it must be incredibly cold, but I was wondering where I could get a metal that allows for superconduction.
 
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You can easily buy lead from anywhere. It is a superconductor below 7.25 K
 
Have a look here. The German version of it suggests ##YBa_2Cu_3O_{7-δ}##. The material depends on the cooling you can achieve.
 
You can buy demo kits meant for e.g. schools that contain pieces of YBCO. This will become superconducting at 92K, meaning you can use liquid nitrogen (which is easy to get hold of) to cool it.
Google "Meissner kit".
CAN superconductors.sells kits like this.

if you just want a material that CAN become superconducting then you can pick up just about any metal (with a number of notable exceptions, .e. g gold): aluminium,.lead, titanium, niobium, rhenium etc are some examples.
Aluminum and niobium (as well as a number of Nb compounds) are the most used superconductors in research.
 
Thanks everybody, I think I will go with lead sheets. I plan on building a model maglev for a science project.
 
You would need liquid helium to cool lead below Tc, not very practical. If you have access to liquid nitrogen you could use YBCO or BSCCO from one of the abovementioned kits to build a train. This is how it is usually done.
 
f95toli said:
You would need liquid helium to cool lead below Tc, not very practical. If you have access to liquid nitrogen you could use YBCO or BSCCO from one of the abovementioned kits to build a train. This is how it is usually done.
Isn't it far too dangerous to give liquid nitrogen at kids' hands?
 
Liquid nitrogen isn't particularly dangerous as long as you don't do anything stupid (i.e. drink it or pour it into a sealed container). It is obviously not toxic (but you should never use it in small badly ventilated spaces, e.g. elevators) and getting some on your skin won't hurt you at all as long as it doesn't get trapped in or underneath something (e.g. tight clothes, underneath jewelry). When doing experiments like this I would suggest wearing a T-shirt (again, getting droplets on your skin won't hurt you at all) or loose fitting garments.
Do be very careful if wearing gloves, there are many situations where they are appropriate (if you e.g. might need to touch a metal surface that has been cooled down by the nitrogen), but there is always the risk of getting nitrogen inside the glove (which would be bad).

It is certainly less dangerous to handle than for example boiling water. In fact, "treat it as boiling water" is exactly what I tell students when I teach them how to handle nitrogen.

That said, anyone using it for the first time should be obviously be supervised; and I wouldn't give it to a bunch of small kids. However, it anyone older than say 15 should be fine as long as they are properly supervised.

(I have been using liquid nitrogen/helium on daily basis for 16 years, and I also used to supervise lab exercises in cryogenics and superconductivity back when I was a PhD student; including demos using a Meissner kit)
 
Trevor Stanfill said:
Thanks everybody, I think I will go with lead sheets. I plan on building a model maglev for a science project.

Does your teacher or whoever is supervising this know of your plan?

As has been mentioned, you will need liquid helium to get lead into a superconducting state. Unless you have the money (LHe is not cheap, and it is also in short supply) and the equipment to handle it, it is not a practical solution. Besides, to get a stable levitation, you will need a better Type II superconductor that allows for field-lines penetration.

Again, look for kits that are available for most school laboratory supplies. The YBCO or BSCCO superconductor will only require liquid nitrogen, which is easier to handle and cheaper. And please, PLEASE consult your teacher on the safe handling of any cryogenic fluids. If you look at videos from JLab's "Frostbite theater", they ALWAYS wear proper protective gear such as eye protection when handling such things.

Zz.
 

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