Calculate angular velocities and alpha values?

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The discussion focuses on calculating angular velocities and alpha values for a lightweight bar with two small spheres at its ends, pivoting around a point O located at L/3. The bar starts vertical and is impacted, causing it to rotate. Participants suggest determining the moment of inertia of the bar, then calculating the vertical height change for the masses to find the total loss in potential energy. Additionally, the problem involves calculating the angle alpha when one mass, m1, experiences a force 1.8 times its weight and separates from the bar. The conversation emphasizes the need for careful step-by-step calculations to solve the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement


A lightweight bar, stiff stick of length L, at either end are two small spheres of mass ##m_{1} = m_{2} = m##. Bar may turn in vertical horizontal axis passing through point O on the way its a bar ##\frac{L}{3}##. At first, the bar is vertical. Due to a slight impact, the loss of balance and start axis through O. Skip any friction.

Homework Equations


a) Calculate angular velocities of the bar when it is vertical with an angle alpha?

b) Know that when the force effects the globe by acting on the ##m_{1}##, with 1,8 times its weight when he began breaking away from the bar. Calculate the alpha angle for the time ball of ##m_{1}## separated from the bar?

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Please explain for me carefully, thank and sorry my bad English

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datanhlg said:
point O on the way its a bar ##\frac{L}{3}##.
Could you please rephrase.
 
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datanhlg said:
point O on the way its a bar ##\frac{L}{3}##.
you mean its fixed at ##\frac{L}{3}##
First i think you might need to find the moment of inertia of the rod, do that then
find the vertical height through which the ##m_1~and~m_2##fall through and move up respectively. find the total loss in potential energy.
 
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