Calculate Cliff Height: Free-Fall Problem with Rock Dropped from a Cliff

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The problem involves calculating the height of a cliff from which a rock is dropped, with the condition that the rock falls one-third of its total distance in the last second of its fall. The subject area pertains to kinematics and free-fall motion.

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions, including initial velocity and acceleration due to gravity. There are attempts to set up equations based on the distance fallen over time, with some participants questioning the choice of time variables used in the equations.

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The discussion includes various approaches to formulating equations related to the problem. Some participants suggest different methods for defining time intervals and distances, while others provide equations that relate height and time. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem's conditions, including the specific relationship between the distance fallen and the time taken. There is an emphasis on deriving equations without providing direct solutions.

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A rock dropped from a cliff falls one-third of its total distance to the ground in the last second of its fall. How high is the cliff?

I'm not asking for answer, I know the Physics Forum rules, but I am totally unsure where to start. I guess I have to use the equation d = Vot + at²/2 ?

Could you please give me a hand and help me figure it out, please. Hints is all I need. Thanks.
 
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lemme try

you are given initial velocity =0
acceleration is 10/9.8m/s2
let total height be h
and time taken to cover full length be t+1 sec

now find distance traveled is t seconds and then find it for t+1 sec

then u get 2 equations involving time and height

solve for answers...
 
Why t+1, though?
 
now distance traveled in last sec is known

so u can take total time as t and 1 sec before time time as t-1

or

u can take total time as t+1 and 1 sec before time as t
 
Or just solve for V_0 with d = 1/3 h and t = 1 s. Then go back and solve for the time it takes to attain that velocity in free fall.
 
h = 1/2*g*t^2 --------(1)
h - h/3 = 1/2*g*(t - 1)^2 -------(2)
Divide 1 by 2 and solve for t. Hence find h.
 

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