Calculate Max Resistance for 2 Parallel Wires

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum resistance for two parallel wires, emphasizing the correct interpretation of the resistance formula. The original poster (OP) calculated the total resistance using the inverse relationship but was advised to verify if the result was a maximum or minimum. Participants highlighted the importance of checking extreme cases to validate the findings. They also suggested that finding the equivalent resistance directly might simplify the problem. Overall, the conversation revolves around ensuring accurate calculations and understanding the properties of resistance in parallel circuits.
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Homework Statement
How must the lengths ##L_1## and ##L2## be distributed so that the resistance between the points ##X## and ##Y## becomes maximum
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Hi,

I am not sure if I have calculated the task here correctly:

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Based on the drawing, I now assumed that the two resistors are connected in parallel. The total resistance can then be calculated as follows ##\frac{1}{R_T}=\frac{1}{R_1}+\frac{1}{R_2}##.

Since the two wires are made of the same material, I only considered their length in the calculation. Then I specified the following ##L_1=x## and ##L_2=1000-x## and substituted into the equation above ##\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{1000-x}##

Since the resistance is supposed to be maximum, I calculated the derivative of the above expression and then set it to zero.

$$\frac{1}{(1000-x)^2}-\frac{1}{x^2}=0$$

After that, I simply solved the equation for x and got for ##x=500m## which gives me the following for the lengths ##L_1=500m## and ##L_2=500m##.
 
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Looks fine, but you should verify you found a maximum rather than a minimum.
 
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Lambda96 said:
Then I specified the following ##L_1=x## and ##L_2=1000-x## and substituted into the equation above ##\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{1000-x}##
I think you have treated the above expression as the total resistance. But it is not - it is the inverse of the total resistance.

Also, a good way of checking answers (when practical) is to compare the answer against extreme cases. E.g. what resistance would you expect if ##L_1=L_2##? What resistance would you expect if ##L_1= 1000m## and ##L_2=0##?
 
Steve4Physics said:
I think you have treated the above expression as the total resistance. But it is not - it is the inverse of the total resistance.
Of course, since ##f(x) = \frac{1}{x}## is strictly monotone decreasing (barring the boundary where ##x = 0##), searching for an extremum on ##\frac{1}{x}## is largely equivalent to searching for an extremum on ##x##.
 
jbriggs444 said:
Of course, since ##f(x) = \frac{1}{x}## is strictly monotone decreasing (barring the boundary where ##x = 0##), searching for an extremum on ##\frac{1}{x}## is largely equivalent to searching for an extremum on ##x##.
Yes. Finding the extremum of ##\frac 1{R_T}## (which is a minmum here) is equivalent to finding the maximum of ##R_T##.

But it's not clear (to me anyway) if that's what the OP has intentionally done!
 
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Isn't it easier to find an expression for the equivalent resistance and just look at it?
$$\frac{1}{R_{eq}}=\kappa\left(\frac{1}{L-x}+\frac{1}{x}\right)=\frac{\kappa~L}{x(L-x)}\implies R_{eq}=\frac{1}{\kappa}x(L-x).$$ This is equivalent to the problem of having a string of length ##L## and being asked to find the rectangle of perimeter ##L## that has maximum area. The answer is a rectangle of equal sides because for every rectangle of base ##b## and height ##h## there is another rectangle of base ##h## and height ##b## that has equal area. Thus, any ##b\neq h## is not unique and cannot be an extremum. Only ##b=h## gives a unique area and hence an extremum. It is a maximum because when either one of the sides goes to zero, the area goes to zero.
 
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vela said:
Looks fine, but you should verify you found a maximum rather than a minimum.
If you are referring to the expression that OP is optimizing, it better have a minimum because it is the inverse of the equivalent resistance.
 
Thank you vela, Steve4Physics, jbriggs444 and kuruman, for your help and for checking my calculation👍👍👍👍
 
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