Calculate Mutant Frequency: Lac Operon Mutations

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The discussion revolves around calculating mutant frequency from a bacterial culture focusing on lac operon mutations. The calculated revertants on lacXMM were 2.6x10^4, while the total colonies on TSA were 2.26x10^9. Two methods for calculating mutant frequency were debated: one using the number of cell divisions and the other using the number of colonies, with the latter yielding a frequency of 1.1x10^-5 mutations per cell division. Participants clarified that due to high cell populations, using the number of mutants over the total colonies provides a more accurate estimate of mutant frequency. Additionally, lacXMM is described as a specialized agar plate for screening lac operon mutations, utilizing X-Gal to identify functional LacZ products.
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Homework Statement


I have to calculate the mutant frequency from a bacterial culture. We were looking at mutations in the lac operon due to the ability to easily see when the mutation occurred. A lac- culture was plated on lacXMM and TSA. The number of revertants on the lacXMM was calculated to be 2.6x10^4 and the number of colonies was 2.26x10^9 on the TSA. These numbers were calculated after an overnight incubation period.

Homework Equations


2^x=N where N is the number of cells and x is the number of cell divisions

mutant frequency= # mutants/# of cell divisions

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is my problem. When I use the formulas given to me, I get the # of cell divisions to be 31.07 and a mutant frequency of 836.7. I am not quite sure what this number means. Last week, we were told that we could just use the # of CFU on lacXMM/ # of CFU on TSA. We were told that this was acceptable due to the number of cell divisions being high and that this somehow equaled out. I am not sure what was meant. When I simply do it this way, I get 1.1x10^-5 which I assume means that there are 1.1x10^-5 mutations per cell division.

So which way is correct and why exactly? The second answer is more in line with what I would think that the correct answer is but then why is the other formula the one that I find when I try and look it up? Any insight would be appreciated.
 
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mastiffcacher said:
2^x=N where N is the number of cells and x is the number of cell divisions

mutant frequency= # mutants/# of cell divisions

I am not sure if I have understood correctly (I am not even sure what lacXMM is), but are you sure this is the equation for mutant frequency? The number of cell divisions does not tell you, on its own, the number of cells present - you can have two rounds of cell division and consequently four thousand cells, if you started with 1000 cells. To me, the equation would make more sense if it was the number of mutants/the number of cells, not the number of mutants/the number of cell divisions.
I may be mistaken, but I hope this is of some help.
 
Sorry it took a little bit to respond but I got busy at school. I was think the same way you were and was confused. As it is explained to me, the number of cell divisions is needed to determine the total cells over time. Since there were so many cells present, we were told to use # of mutants/ # of colonies on the standard plates. Everyone got the same answers so it must have been right. We were told that we actually calculated %mutants but that it would be close to the frequency due to the high cell populations.

And to clarify what lacXMM is, it is an agar plate that is made with 1X M9 minimal media that has been enriched with lactose at low levels (such as 5mM, 10mM, 2mM...). The X refers to X-Gal which acts as a screening tool for functioning LacZ products. It acts as a substrate that can be broken down releasing indole I think but anyway turns the colonies blue. X-Gal is also added to the lactose and M9 media to form a screening media for cells that mutated to a lacI positive mutant.
 
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