Calculate the final velocity of an object accelerating towards a mass

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To calculate the final velocity of an object accelerating towards a mass, conservation of energy principles should be applied, specifically using the equation ΔKE = -ΔPE. The gravitational potential energy (PE) cannot be simplified to PE = mass x gravity x height due to the changing acceleration as the distance decreases. Instead, the correct formula is PE = -GMm/r, where r is the distance between the centers of the two masses. An example calculation shows that a 1-kilogram object starting from rest at a distance of 3.8 x 10^8 meters would reach a velocity of 1450 m/s at impact, disregarding air resistance. Understanding these concepts is essential for solving such problems accurately.
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I need to be able to calculate the final velocity of an object accelerating towards a mass from a distnce with an initial velocity. From my little knowledge of calculus, I am only a junior in high school, i have figured out that this is probably a derivitive problem. But i have no knowledge of how to solve these kinds of equations. If I am right would some one please walk me through it step-by-step. If I'm wrong, please correct me and show me how to do it step by step. This is not a homework problem but a problem i made up to challenge myself. The problem is i think I am in way over my head. So any help would be amazing. Thanks
 
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No, I think all you need here is to apply conservation of energy,

\Delta KE = -\Delta PE,

where PE is the gravitational potential energy between the two objects.
 


But since acceleration due to gravity increases as the distance between the two objects decreases, you can't use PE=massxgravityxheight since the acceleration is constantly changing for a given height. or does that not matter? I worked it out and i got that an object of mass one kilogram starting from rest at a distnce of 3.8x10^8 meters would be traveling at 1450 m/s at the point of impact, disregarding air resistance.
 


wildkat7411 said:
But since acceleration due to gravity increases as the distance between the two objects decreases, you can't use PE=massxgravityxheight since the acceleration is constantly changing for a given height. or does that not matter? I worked it out and i got that an object of mass one kilogram starting from rest at a distnce of 3.8x10^8 meters would be traveling at 1450 m/s at the point of impact, disregarding air resistance.
Right, you can't use PE = mgh. Use Newton's Law of Gravitation.
 


wildkat7411 said:
But since acceleration due to gravity increases as the distance between the two objects decreases, you can't use PE=massxgravityxheight since the acceleration is constantly changing for a given height. or does that not matter? I worked it out and i got that an object of mass one kilogram starting from rest at a distnce of 3.8x10^8 meters would be traveling at 1450 m/s at the point of impact, disregarding air resistance.

No you can't. you have to use

PE = -\frac{GMm}{r}

Where r is the distance between the centers of m and M.

Just remember that \Delta PE is the difference in PE between the start of the fall and the end of the fall.
 
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