Calculate the Flux through the Pipe

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To calculate the flux of water through a rectangular pipe, the relevant equation is Φ = ∫_S v · dA. The user expresses confusion about computing the surface integral and whether to apply the divergence theorem, given the problem's simplicity. It is clarified that if the velocity is uniform, the flux can be simplified to Φ = v * A, where A is the cross-sectional area of the pipe. The user confirms the calculation as Φ = v * s * l, indicating they understand the relationship between velocity, area, and flux. This foundational understanding will aid in tackling more complex parts of the problem involving varying velocities and angles.
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Homework Statement



Water flows with a speed v down a rectangular pipe of dimensions s and l as shown. What is the rate \Phi=volume\, per\, unit\, time
at which water accumulates in the bucket?

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Homework Equations


\Phi=\int_S\mathbf{v}\cdot d\mathbf{a}


The Attempt at a Solution



I am confused as to how to compute this integral. I do not see how could use the divergence theorem to simplify it since I only have the dimensions of the 2-dim surface of the rectangular pipe.

I am not sure how to evaluate the surface integral based solely on its definition. Can someone help to get me started?

Do I just use the definition \Phi=\int_S\mathbf{v}\cdot d\mathbf{a} for this?
 
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Any suggestions would be appreciated. :smile:
 
Sure, flux is integral v.dA. If the velocity is uniform that's just v*A. Isn't it? Why do you want to use the divergence theorem? This problem sure looks simple to me. Is this some kind of a trick?
 
Dick said:
Sure, flux is integral v.dA. If the velocity is uniform that's just v*A. Isn't it? Why do you want to use the divergence theorem? This problem sure looks simple to me. Is this some kind of a trick?

I just don't know anymore :sad: I think I am getting stupider and stupider.

I don't know what he is looking for (Griffith's Intro to Electrodynamics problem 1.32 2nd ed.).

I don't want to just memorize formulas. I want to compute the integrals. But I get all effed up when I get a surface integral no matter how simple. If I have to use the definition, I get all flustered.

How do I compute the integral?

I get,

\phi=\int_S v \cdot da
=\int_S v*da\cos\theta
=\int_S v*da
=\int_s\int_l v*(dsdl)=v*s*l

is that right?

The reason I want to do this right is that the next three parts of the problem have angles and $hit that I'll and non-uniform velocities that I will have to deal with.
 
Yes, that's right. It's v*A=v*s*l. cos(theta)=1.
 
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