Calculate the maximum height of ball 1

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum height of ball 1 and the rebound height of ball 2 in a system involving two connected balls over a pulley. Ball 1, with a mass of 0.45 kg, starts at 0.74 m, while ball 2, with a mass of 5.7 kg, starts at 0.88 m. Upon release, ball 2 falls, loses 30% of its kinetic energy upon impact, and rebounds, while ball 1 rises to a maximum height before starting to fall. The calculations involve determining the velocities and kinetic energies of both balls, with emphasis on using the correct values for velocity in subsequent equations. The thread concludes with a request for the final maximum and rebound heights achieved by the balls.
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Two balls are connected by a string that stretches over a massless, frictionless pulley. Ball 1 has a mass of 0.45 kg and is held 0.74 m above the ground. Ball 2 has a mass of 5.7 kg and is held 0.88 m above the ground. When the balls are released, ball 2 falls to the ground, looses 30 % of its kinetic energy and rebounds to some maximum rebound height. When the balls are released, ball 1 travels to some maximum height before starting to fall. Assume that ball 1 reaches its maximum height during ball 2's rebound so that the string doesn't pull.
Calculate the maximum height of ball 1 from and ground and the rebound height of ball 2.

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can you check my work i am stuck
I would calculate the kinetic energy of ball 2 just before and after it hits the ground, using
Just before impact, ball 2 (M) and ball 1 (m) have acquired kinetic energy
(1/2)mV^2 + (1/2)MV^2
= M g*0.74 - m g*0.74 Solve for V of both balls, and the kinetic energy of ball 2.

(1/2)(m + M)V^2 = 0.74 (M-m)g
V^2 = [(M-m)/(M+m)]g*1.48 = 12.38 m^2/s^2
V = 3.52 m/s

= After impact, ball 2 will have 70% of the pre-impact kinetic energy, and its velocity will be V' = sqrt(0.7)V= 0.8367V = 2.94 m/s
Right after ball 2's impact, Ball 1 will continue to rise for a while because it suffered no impact and maintained its velocity V when ball 2 hits the ground. There will be no tension in the string while ball 2 and ba1l 1 both rise.
Ball 1 rises a distance H1 given by
M g H1 = (1/2) M V'^2 = (1/2)M(0.7)V^2
H1 = (0.7)V^2/(2g) = 0.35 V^2/g

When ball 1 hits the ground, ball 2 has already risen from 0.74 to 0.74 + 0.88 = 1.62 m above the ground. It will rise an additional distance until its kinetic energy (1/2) mV^2(at impact)is converted to potential energy
 
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Hi myoplex11! :smile:

Looks good down to …
myoplex11 said:
Ball 1 rises a distance H1 given by
M g H1 = (1/2) M V'^2 = (1/2)M(0.7)V^2
H1 = (0.7)V^2/(2g) = 0.35 V^2/g
… where you should still be using V = 3.52 (not 0.7V) :wink:

(are you mixing up ball 1 and 2?)

Apart from that, everything's fine.

What are you getting for the maximum and rebound heights? :smile:
 
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