Calculate the velocity of the transverse wave at any position

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The discussion centers on calculating the velocity of a transverse wave on a hanging string, emphasizing the tension at a point x from the free end. The tension is derived from the weight of the string below that point, calculated as (m/l)*x*g. A key point of contention is why the upper portion of the string does not contribute to the tension, with the explanation that the segment at point x is in equilibrium, meaning the forces acting on it must balance. The weight of the string below point x pulls down, while the upper part must exert an upward force to maintain equilibrium. This analysis clarifies the dynamics of tension in a string with mass, crucial for understanding wave propagation.
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a string of length l and mass m hangs freely from a fixed point
calculate the velocity of the transverse wave at any position
sol:
mass per unit length is m/l
let there be a point on the string at a distance x from free end
tension at the point=wt of the string per unit length*part of the string
=(m/l)*x*g
and sol continues.

my doubt is why isn't the upper part contributing to the tension?
weight due to upper part must be pushing down the lower part.
 
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If I understand your question correctly, the answer is "You can't push with a string."
 


sir,
the string here has considerable mass.let us consider the part x(as i have mentionedin prob) and l-x seperately.why isn't the weight due to upper part pushing down the lower part and contributing to tension?
isnt it just like a block placed over another as in this case it is clear that the upper block exerts some force over the lower?
thanks in advance.
 


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